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unity connection ports

leandro-contino
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Hi guys, i need to know if you can  help me which is the relation between ports and user in UC8, because I  have 12.000 Users to distribute in two server in a cluster, i have  mcs-7845-i3 that support 20.000 users and 250 ports, in cluster 20000  users and 500 ports, but i need to know what happen if i have a downsite  with ports.. for this reason i need to know the relation

Can any  help me ??

thanks  in advance

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You are fine in a failover scenario going with the 7845 platform.  The 7845 can handle 20,000 users and 250 ports on a single server.  So, you are more than prepared for 100% failover with a cluster of 2 x 7845's for CUC.  As far as the actual server SKU, the following is a pre-loaded CUC 8.0 appliance:

MCS7845I3-K9-UCC1

One last piece of advice, I'd skip 8.0.  It's been extremely buggy like most dot zero releases.  You don't need that.  If you can hold on for just another month or two, you should start to see 8.5 become available.  If you have to have 8.x, that's how I'd go in the short-term...but if you order 8.0, you can just be on the lookout for 8.5 and then upgrade once you are comfortable with platform stability.

Hailey

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William Bell
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User licenses dictate how many user mailboxes you can create on the cluster.

Port licenses dictate how many ports you can configure on the CUCxn system.  Ports on a CUCxn system can be used for receiving calls, placing calls, sending notifications, recording via the TRAP service, etc.  Port licenses determine the number of concurrent ports that can be active at one time.  You should have ports licensed on all nodes in the cluster. The ports allocation across cluster nodes should have parity.

I am not sure I follow the scenario you are concerned about.  I suspect you may be wondering about the recommended ratio of number of users to active/available ports. Well, this isn't as straight forward as one may suspect. You have to determine how you are using ports, whether certain features you have enabled impact port capacity, your actual call volume (or expected), etc. Clearly if you have 10000 users and 10 ports, you will have a blocking situation (i.e. fast busy on inbound call).

You should start by understanding how ports can be used and what sizing considerations should be accounted for. This link is a good start:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/7x/design/guide/7xcucdg025.html

From there, you will want to look at the appropriate integration guide and the clustering section in the above guide.

HTH.


Regards,

Bill

HTH -Bill (b) http://ucguerrilla.com (t) @ucguerrilla

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To add to Bill's comments (+5 for Bill), you should also better understand the point of clustering within Unity Connection.  This is often misinterpreted or just not understood.  CUC is designed to provide 100% redundancy between the 2 servers in the cluster.  So, when you say "split" users across 2 servers in a cluster - this is not accurate.  You do not "split" users across servers in a CUC cluster.  Likewise, when you can support 20,000 users and 500 ports in a cluster - this does not inherently mean that you have 500 ports actively answering calls.  Your setup is more like this:

Publisher - should handle Database and Web Services (IMAP, administration, etc).  Ideally, no call processing is done by the Publisher during normal business operations.  It is possible to overflow excess call traffic to the Publisher during normal operations but this isn't something most should plan on doing.

Subscriber - call processing, when you call VM you should hit the Subscriber first so all user operations and calls would first go to the Subscriber during normal operations.

Redundancy - Either server can takeover all operations for a period of time during an outage.  If the Publisher goes down, the Subscriber can support all end users and provide up to 250 ports for call processing.  Likewise, if the Subscriber goes down - it can handle all operations for the Subscriber.

In CUCM, your primary VM ports might be a line group of x number of ports that are pointed to the Subscriber.  A good rule of thumb is that you designate about 25% of your ports solely to MWI and notification.  So, those ports are not available for calls and they are not included in your line group.  You need to replicate this on the line groups for both the Pub and Sub in CUC as well as they are separately configured within CUC as well.  You would then have a separate line group in CUCM for the Publisher and in the Hunt List, the priority would be Sub first and then Pub second.  This meaning that the Sub will handle all calls unless you absolutely have to rollover to the Pub for excess call flow OR in a failover scenario, all calls would go to the Line Group that has registered ports (so priority doesn't really matter here as the failed device would likely no longer have any ports registered to it).

In short terms, I've seen some pretty large implementations where 96 ports or even 144 ports is considered A LOT of ports.  However, as Bill said - if you are doing a lot of outdialing or other operations, this could impact your port usage and cause it go up or down.  For the most part, there is no hard rule of thumb that says x number of users requires y number of ports.  Instead, you usually base the number of ports on examination of legacy VM system port usage or, in a greenfield environment, you may want to consider overprovisoning ports vs. underprovisioning (i.e., go with 144 or more for very large implementations vs. 24 or 48 so as to make the user experience and technology adoption more smooth for end users).

Hailey

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leandro-contino
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Thanks you guys for your requests.

Then of interpreter your comments, can you tell me if this configurtaoin is valid ? or maybe i'll going to need add another cluster to support users ?

Connection 8.0

VM User 12.000

MCS 7845-I3-RC1

Ports 250 x Server (500 in cluster HA (Active/Active))

What do you think that is going to happen in an eventual down of One of this server ? could One server manage  250 ports with 12.0000 users ? or maybe i need add One cluster more and do Digital Networking between they ?

You are fine in a failover scenario going with the 7845 platform.  The 7845 can handle 20,000 users and 250 ports on a single server.  So, you are more than prepared for 100% failover with a cluster of 2 x 7845's for CUC.  As far as the actual server SKU, the following is a pre-loaded CUC 8.0 appliance:

MCS7845I3-K9-UCC1

One last piece of advice, I'd skip 8.0.  It's been extremely buggy like most dot zero releases.  You don't need that.  If you can hold on for just another month or two, you should start to see 8.5 become available.  If you have to have 8.x, that's how I'd go in the short-term...but if you order 8.0, you can just be on the lookout for 8.5 and then upgrade once you are comfortable with platform stability.

Hailey

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