02-19-2018 04:48 AM - edited 03-01-2019 05:27 AM
Hi All,
I have these question regarding Multicast and cost, if anyone can help?
thanks in advanced
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02-27-2018 03:56 AM
Hi Steven,
Some responses in-line.
You can have as many phantom RPs as you like. Most example configs show 2 as they typically only have 2 IPN devices in lab environments.
Think about redundancy. If you have only two pods and will never grow then it probably doesn't matter as you don't need multicast to work if you lose Pod 1, but what if you expand to a third pod. In this case you will want your RPs spread across sites.
Typically we use Phantom RP, and the Phantom IP address is in a subnet that all RPs have configured as a loopback interface (with OSPF network type point-to-point). The length of the mask determines who is the RP for this multicast group range. Long match wins. (When I say is the RP, they are really just the shared reference point for the tree, it isn't PIM Sparse Mode with registers, shared tree, SPT etc).
This would be talking about the fact that the spines are not PIM routers participating in our PIM BiDir. They are IGMP clients and they will not forward multicast between IPN facing interfaces. Therefore you need to increase the OSPF cost on these links to avoid traffic attempting to route between IPN nodes back via a spine. So yes, I would increase the cost on all IPN to spine links to something higher than every possible path between IPN nodes.
This is the IP of an APIC in Pod 1. The Pod 2 spine needs to have it's DHCP forwarded to an APIC in pod 1 to complete discovery.
VLANs are significant to the switch by default, and the spine is not going to have any of your leaf encap VLANs deployed on it.
Create a new static VLAN Pool with VLAN 4 in it, assign it to a new Routed Domain, assign that to an AEP, and assign that to the Policy Group attached to the Spine interface profile's interface selector. VLAN 4 used for multi-pod will not clash with VLAN 4 being used on a leaf.
03-10-2018 07:06 PM
Assuming your IPN links are 10gbps then cost 100 like you have shown is fine.
I would not increase the cost between IPN nodes as this is the preferred path when an inter site link is down. I also wouldn’t bother increasing the cost on the Spine side just to keep the configuration simple. Doing it on the IPN node side is sufficient provided your IPN link costs are low enough.
02-27-2018 03:56 AM
Hi Steven,
Some responses in-line.
You can have as many phantom RPs as you like. Most example configs show 2 as they typically only have 2 IPN devices in lab environments.
Think about redundancy. If you have only two pods and will never grow then it probably doesn't matter as you don't need multicast to work if you lose Pod 1, but what if you expand to a third pod. In this case you will want your RPs spread across sites.
Typically we use Phantom RP, and the Phantom IP address is in a subnet that all RPs have configured as a loopback interface (with OSPF network type point-to-point). The length of the mask determines who is the RP for this multicast group range. Long match wins. (When I say is the RP, they are really just the shared reference point for the tree, it isn't PIM Sparse Mode with registers, shared tree, SPT etc).
This would be talking about the fact that the spines are not PIM routers participating in our PIM BiDir. They are IGMP clients and they will not forward multicast between IPN facing interfaces. Therefore you need to increase the OSPF cost on these links to avoid traffic attempting to route between IPN nodes back via a spine. So yes, I would increase the cost on all IPN to spine links to something higher than every possible path between IPN nodes.
This is the IP of an APIC in Pod 1. The Pod 2 spine needs to have it's DHCP forwarded to an APIC in pod 1 to complete discovery.
VLANs are significant to the switch by default, and the spine is not going to have any of your leaf encap VLANs deployed on it.
Create a new static VLAN Pool with VLAN 4 in it, assign it to a new Routed Domain, assign that to an AEP, and assign that to the Policy Group attached to the Spine interface profile's interface selector. VLAN 4 used for multi-pod will not clash with VLAN 4 being used on a leaf.
03-01-2018 02:19 AM
Hi Arch,
Thanks for your assistant, I need more clarifications regarding these points:
1.OSPF cost, i have uploaded the network diagram, i have two PODs, each POD has two IPN devices and two spines, each IPN device connect to each spine by two links "40G" and between IPN devices two links "10G", in our scenario i need to increase the cost between all the links as shown in the attaches
2. regarding DHCP-Relay IP address, as i know this is VTEP IP address, how can get it by command line or through GUI?
3. regarding Vlan POOL, i will create two pools:
a. Existing pool from vlan 1 - 9999
b. Multipod pool vlan 4
correct me.
Thanks
03-01-2018 02:56 AM
1. I don't see any attachment, but increase the cost on the 40G links to the spines to something higher than any other path between the IPN nodes. The value to use will depend on the reference bandwidth and the link speeds involved.
2. You can find the APIC IP with "show controller". It is listed under the "Address" column in the output.
3. Yes, two pools each of which is referenced by a different domain and a different AEP above that.
03-01-2018 04:17 AM
03-05-2018 03:09 AM
Hi Ric,
Did you see the diagram, and where i have to increase the OSPF cost, and what is the recommended value for this scenario since i will enable following command :
router ospf XX
auto-cost reference-bandwidth 100 Gbps
Thanks
03-10-2018 07:06 PM
Assuming your IPN links are 10gbps then cost 100 like you have shown is fine.
I would not increase the cost between IPN nodes as this is the preferred path when an inter site link is down. I also wouldn’t bother increasing the cost on the Spine side just to keep the configuration simple. Doing it on the IPN node side is sufficient provided your IPN link costs are low enough.
03-13-2018 03:22 AM
Hi Ric,
Thanks a lot for your reply and appreciated.
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