Guys I need an answer quickly if you can. I am trying to do the following. I have two vpn tunnels from 3002 clients to a pix firewall. One is coming into the outside interface, the other is coming into another interface on the PIX. both tunnels work fine until we try to create a type 1 tunnel inside the IPSEC tunnel across the PIX to the other tunnel and to another type 1 device. I am able to connect across the pix from tunnel to tunnel until I insert the type 1 encryptors in behind the 3002 concentrators. Its really weird that the type one encryptors can talk to each other thru the Cisco tunnels but devices behind the type 1 encryptors can't ping across.