02-15-2025 07:13 AM
Would prefer an MX67CW or MX68CW, or ISR 900 series router but none of those appear of have built-in 4gLTE, Band-14 cellular, which is the AT&T FirstNet (public safety reserved band), as surprising as that seems. The ISR 1000 series router does according to the specifications, but they appear to have a more complex licensing schema which is a bit over my head. This is a very small deployment for a specialty application VLAN within our Public Safety complex. Nothing fancy.
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02-16-2025 03:28 AM
Then your option is to go with an ISR 1000 that are the only ones supporting this band. You can choose from C1101-4PLTEP, C1109-4PLTE2P, C1121-8PLTEP, C1126-8PLTEP, C1161-8PLTEP, C1161X-8PLTEP that are FirstNet certified ISRs with CAT 18 PIM (P-LTEAP18-GL).
The licensing schema is not so complicated - you can go with one of the DNA licenses:
● Cisco DNA Essentials
● Cisco DNA Advantage
● Cisco DNA Premier
Cisco DNA Essentials covers all types of connectivity and router lifecycle management, with support for network and application visibility coupled with basic on-premises and transport security. Cisco DNA Advantage provides advanced WAN topologies, as well as application-aware policies supported by enhanced network security. Cisco DNA Premier provides cloud connectivity with unlimited segmentation, advanced application optimization, and network analytics, secured by advanced threat protection.
For more details, please see the following link:
HTH
02-15-2025 08:39 AM
Hello @hconant ,
according to the Cisco documentation, the ISR 900 doesn't support Band-14: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/900-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/datasheet-c78-741615.html#PlatformSupport
The MX67 or MX68 also doesn't seem to support it: https://documentation.meraki.com/MX/MX_Overviews_and_Specifications/MX67_and_MX68_Datasheet
HTH
02-16-2025 02:47 AM
I already stated what the online documentation says about Mx57/68 and ISR 900 series. I was hoping the online documentation was incorrect since it seems supprising a 25 yr old cell band (14) is not supported. That said, which router does, that would be appropriate for small business purposes and scaled well to the Catalyst 1000 serieis switches we are intending to use.
02-16-2025 03:28 AM
Then your option is to go with an ISR 1000 that are the only ones supporting this band. You can choose from C1101-4PLTEP, C1109-4PLTE2P, C1121-8PLTEP, C1126-8PLTEP, C1161-8PLTEP, C1161X-8PLTEP that are FirstNet certified ISRs with CAT 18 PIM (P-LTEAP18-GL).
The licensing schema is not so complicated - you can go with one of the DNA licenses:
● Cisco DNA Essentials
● Cisco DNA Advantage
● Cisco DNA Premier
Cisco DNA Essentials covers all types of connectivity and router lifecycle management, with support for network and application visibility coupled with basic on-premises and transport security. Cisco DNA Advantage provides advanced WAN topologies, as well as application-aware policies supported by enhanced network security. Cisco DNA Premier provides cloud connectivity with unlimited segmentation, advanced application optimization, and network analytics, secured by advanced threat protection.
For more details, please see the following link:
HTH
02-16-2025 03:34 AM
Thanks you. That is helpful. Seems I need to learn more about cisco licensing. Perhaps setup Smartlicensing.
02-16-2025 04:06 AM
You are welcome.
Smart licensing is the way to go for device licensing. Cisco is pushing it for some years now.
You can start with these links to get aquatinted with Smart licensing and Cisco DNA licenses:
Cisco DNA Software Licensing Tiers
Cisco DNA Software: SD-WAN and Routing Matrices
02-18-2025 02:54 AM
It appears the NIM for the isr 1000 routers do not support cell Band-14 either. https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/datasheet-C78-734341.html
02-18-2025 03:17 AM
The NIM is for ISR 4K. Pretty strange why on ISR 4K it doesn't show as supported, but on ISR 1K it is...
02-18-2025 02:54 AM
It appears the NIM for the isr 1000 routers do not support cell Band-14 either. https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/datasheet-C78-734341.html
02-18-2025 03:48 AM
Hmmm. The isr1k uses a PIM, not the NIM it does appear. And it does appear PIMs do support Band-14 depending on antenna? Difficult to determine the correct PIM for, say the isr1101-4p-ltep, as suggested above. https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/cloud_edge/c8300/hardware_installation/b-catalyst-8300-series-edge-platforms-hig/c-pim.pdf
02-18-2025 04:16 AM
The link provided is for Cisco 8300 series.
For the Cisco 1000, please see this link: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/1000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/datasheet-c78-739512.html#Ciscocellulartechnologiesproductportfolio
It is possible that some PIM modules to work on multiple product series - for example the P-5GS6-GL is supported on C8300, C8200, C8200L, and Cisco 1000 Series Integrated Service Routers beginning with Cisco IOS XE 17.9.2 release - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/1100/hardware/installation/guide/b-cisco-1100-series-hig/isr1k-hig-overview.html
Be careful to choose a PIM module that is compatible with the supported region where it will operate. For example the P-5GS6-GL is supported to work in US, CA, AU, NZ, JP, Europe.
HTH
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