05-22-2008 06:25 PM - edited 03-05-2019 11:10 PM
Hi every body!
I have some confusion about ether channel.
Let say we have two switches: sw1 and sw2.
sw1 and sw2 connected by ether channel.
Ether channel consisits of 3 links which are numbered as L0,L1,L2,
We are using "source and destination ip for load balancing across links in ether channel. Assume host 1.1.1.1 is on sw1, while host 1.1.1.2 is on sw2.
Suppose host 1.1.1.1 send packet to 1.1.1.2 . Since 3 links are being used in ether channel,we use 2-bit index.
Moreover XOR operation would be performed on the right most two of ip addresses i.e
1.1.1.1 "01" would be the binary for digit one "1" in the last octet.
similarly 1.1.1.2 " 10" would be the binary for digit "2" in the last octet.
Now we perform XOR operation on 01
10
-------
1 1
Binary " 11" corresponds to decimal "3"
SO link L3 should be used when 1.1.1.1 sends packet to 1.1.1.2 , but the last link is L2 . Does it mean the links in ether channel should be multiples of "2"?
Am i right?
thanks alot!
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05-23-2008 06:19 AM
Hello,
this is part of the problem when dealing with etherchannels: you cannot be sure that traffic will be really load balanced.
With 3 member links you could expect one link to carry 2*25% = 50% of load because using a two bit exor provides 4 possible values : 00-01-10-11 and the last should be mapped to the first link as 00.
As an example from our production network :
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh int gi3/8 | inc packets output
2613764 packets output, 208665458 bytes, 0 underruns
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh int gi3/9 | inc packets output
1634501 packets output, 148927183 bytes, 0 underruns
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh int gi3/10 | inc packets output
520445 packets output, 77374046 bytes, 0 underruns
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh ethercha sum
Flags: D - down P - in port-channel
I - stand-alone s - suspended
R - Layer3 S - Layer2
U - in use f - failed to allocate aggregator
u - unsuitable for bundling
w - waiting to be aggregated
d - default port
Number of channel-groups in use: 2
Number of aggregators: 2
Group Port-channel Protocol Ports
------+-------------+-----------+-----------------------------------------------
1 Po1(SU) LACP Gi3/8(P) Gi3/9(P) Gi3/10(P)
where these three links are members of a channel-group negotiated with LACP and on the other side there is a multiple NICs server.
all the ports have come up together and the load-balance protocol i s IPv4 sa exor ipv4 da:
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7# sh ethercha load-balance
EtherChannel Load-Balancing Configuration:
src-dst-ip
EtherChannel Load-Balancing Addresses Used Per-Protocol:
Non-IP: Source XOR Destination MAC address
IPv4: Source XOR Destination IP address
IPv6: Source XOR Destination IP address
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
here the details:
Port: Gi3/10
------------
Port state = Up Mstr Assoc In-Bndl
Channel group = 1 Mode = Active Gcchange = -
Port-channel = Po1 GC = - Pseudo port-channel = Po1
Port index = 1 Load = 0x00 Protocol = LACP
Flags: S - Device is sending Slow LACPDUs F - Device is sending fast LACPDUs.
A - Device is in active mode. P - Device is in passive mode.
Local information:
LACP port Admin Oper Port Port
Port Flags State Priority Key Key Number State
Gi3/10 SA bndl 32768 0x1 0x1 0x41 0x3D
Partner's information:
Port Flags State Priority AdminKey DevID Age OperKey PortNum PortState
Gi3/10 SA bndl 255 0x0 0000.8726.02af 10s 0x11 0x3 0x3D
Age of the port in the current state: 42d:06h:11m:33s
Port-channels in the group:
---------------------------
Port-channel: Po1 (Primary Aggregator)
------------
Age of the Port-channel = 44d:09h:56m:03s
Logical slot/port = 11/1 Number of ports = 3
Port state = Port-channel Ag-Inuse
Protocol = LACP
Port security = Disabled
Ports in the Port-channel:
Index Load Port EC state No of bits
------+------+------+------------------+-----------
0 00 Gi3/8 Active 0
2 00 Gi3/9 Active 0
1 00 Gi3/10 Active 0
Time since last port bundled: 42d:06h:11m:09s Gi3/9
Time since last port Un-bundled: 42d:06h:11m:39s Gi3/9
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
of course it depends also by the traffic characteristics but of an etherchannel you can trust the redundancy capabilities
Sorry for the long output but I think it can be interesting.
hope to help
Giuseppe
05-26-2008 03:30 AM
Hello Sarah,
my opinion is that in a 3 links etherchannel traffic flows that match the '11' pattern are associated to one of the existing links like it would be a circular buffer.
The reason for this is that for forwarding efficiency a clear rule has be used for all traffic flows: so traffic flows where the EXOR of the two least significant bits of source and destination ip address lead to "11" should be associated to link 00 (for example).
hope to help
Giuseppe
05-23-2008 12:07 AM
Hi Sarah
I think your confusion may arise due to the way you worded your post.
You wrote "Ether channel consisits of 3 links which are numbered as L0,L1,L2,"
I would write this as "an Ether channel consisits of 3 physical ports, say Fa0/1, Fa0/2 & Fa0/3.
Then as I understand it, when 1.1.1.1 sends traffic to 1.1.1.2 over a 3 port Ether Channel a 2 bit XOR is performed on the two least significant bits (the right most bits), which for the IP address 1.1.1.1 is "01" and for the IP address 1.1.1.2 is "10".
As you said the result of this XOR is "11" or decimal value 3. This means that the traffic between these two IP addresses would use the third port in the Ether Channel or port Fa0/3.
HTH
Best Regards,
Michael
05-23-2008 07:57 AM
Thanks lot for your reply. If you say xor 11 indicates to use port 3, so xor 01 means port 1 must be used right? how about if xor is 00 which means port 0 should be used which is not in ether channel.So what will happen now ?
05-23-2008 06:19 AM
Hello,
this is part of the problem when dealing with etherchannels: you cannot be sure that traffic will be really load balanced.
With 3 member links you could expect one link to carry 2*25% = 50% of load because using a two bit exor provides 4 possible values : 00-01-10-11 and the last should be mapped to the first link as 00.
As an example from our production network :
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh int gi3/8 | inc packets output
2613764 packets output, 208665458 bytes, 0 underruns
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh int gi3/9 | inc packets output
1634501 packets output, 148927183 bytes, 0 underruns
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh int gi3/10 | inc packets output
520445 packets output, 77374046 bytes, 0 underruns
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#sh ethercha sum
Flags: D - down P - in port-channel
I - stand-alone s - suspended
R - Layer3 S - Layer2
U - in use f - failed to allocate aggregator
u - unsuitable for bundling
w - waiting to be aggregated
d - default port
Number of channel-groups in use: 2
Number of aggregators: 2
Group Port-channel Protocol Ports
------+-------------+-----------+-----------------------------------------------
1 Po1(SU) LACP Gi3/8(P) Gi3/9(P) Gi3/10(P)
where these three links are members of a channel-group negotiated with LACP and on the other side there is a multiple NICs server.
all the ports have come up together and the load-balance protocol i s IPv4 sa exor ipv4 da:
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7# sh ethercha load-balance
EtherChannel Load-Balancing Configuration:
src-dst-ip
EtherChannel Load-Balancing Addresses Used Per-Protocol:
Non-IP: Source XOR Destination MAC address
IPv4: Source XOR Destination IP address
IPv6: Source XOR Destination IP address
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
here the details:
Port: Gi3/10
------------
Port state = Up Mstr Assoc In-Bndl
Channel group = 1 Mode = Active Gcchange = -
Port-channel = Po1 GC = - Pseudo port-channel = Po1
Port index = 1 Load = 0x00 Protocol = LACP
Flags: S - Device is sending Slow LACPDUs F - Device is sending fast LACPDUs.
A - Device is in active mode. P - Device is in passive mode.
Local information:
LACP port Admin Oper Port Port
Port Flags State Priority Key Key Number State
Gi3/10 SA bndl 32768 0x1 0x1 0x41 0x3D
Partner's information:
Port Flags State Priority AdminKey DevID Age OperKey PortNum PortState
Gi3/10 SA bndl 255 0x0 0000.8726.02af 10s 0x11 0x3 0x3D
Age of the port in the current state: 42d:06h:11m:33s
Port-channels in the group:
---------------------------
Port-channel: Po1 (Primary Aggregator)
------------
Age of the Port-channel = 44d:09h:56m:03s
Logical slot/port = 11/1 Number of ports = 3
Port state = Port-channel Ag-Inuse
Protocol = LACP
Port security = Disabled
Ports in the Port-channel:
Index Load Port EC state No of bits
------+------+------+------------------+-----------
0 00 Gi3/8 Active 0
2 00 Gi3/9 Active 0
1 00 Gi3/10 Active 0
Time since last port bundled: 42d:06h:11m:09s Gi3/9
Time since last port Un-bundled: 42d:06h:11m:39s Gi3/9
SW-RM-TLD066-SF-7#
of course it depends also by the traffic characteristics but of an etherchannel you can trust the redundancy capabilities
Sorry for the long output but I think it can be interesting.
hope to help
Giuseppe
05-23-2008 07:52 AM
First of all, thanks alot for the detailed reply.But I am still fuzzy about one thing.
AS can be seen from my post, ether channel consists of " 3" links. In ether channel, links are bundled as L0,L1,L2.
XOR output "00" corresponds to link L0
01 corresponds to link L1
10 corresponds to link L2
11 corresponds to link L3
In our case , xor output is 11 which corresponds link L3, but the last link in our ether channel is L2, so what will happen now , xor output "11" indicate link L3 should be used which does not exist in ether channel?
thanks alot!
05-26-2008 03:30 AM
Hello Sarah,
my opinion is that in a 3 links etherchannel traffic flows that match the '11' pattern are associated to one of the existing links like it would be a circular buffer.
The reason for this is that for forwarding efficiency a clear rule has be used for all traffic flows: so traffic flows where the EXOR of the two least significant bits of source and destination ip address lead to "11" should be associated to link 00 (for example).
hope to help
Giuseppe
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