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CISCO1941/K9 Vs CISCO2951/K9

Steev112
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Hi,

Can anyone help me to provide What is the difference between "CISCO1941/K9 Vs CISCO2951/K9 " ?

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My Scenario to run DMVPN

DMVPN = encryption.  

I have some branches has 4MP

4 Mbps upload AND download or 4 Mbps shared?

so what it is suitable model for this scenario C1941 or C2951.

Ok, let's presume I am a crazed maniac.  4 Mbps upload AND 4 Mbps download = 8 Mbps.  Add encryption "penalty", say 50% and the total is 12 Mbps.  

If 12 Mbps then 1941 is an "over kill" and an 891 would be suitable, however, what is the plan of the bandwidth 2 or 3 years from now?  If future-proofing is part of the plan then 1941 would fit perfectly to about 50 to 75 Mbps.  

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Joseph W. Doherty
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As the other posters have already described, perhaps the biggest difference between the two models is their performance capacity.  However, support for modular interfaces may vary too.

I've attached a Cisco white paper that explains how router performance varies under different conditions.  (It actually lists both the 1941 and 2951.)

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see here ,seem's you haven't come across this

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Supported bandwidth.  Read THIS.

Hi, Thanks Preranda and Leo your help me, I have go through the document which Leo shared with me and I saw this dettefrence: C2951 580,000 296.96 C1941 299,000 153.08 can you please explain me what does mean or what the benefit for that value? Thanks

The raw values of what each model can support in terms of bandwidth.  Higher bandwidth means bigger models.  The value means Mbps, no encryption and in a single direction only.  

Thank Leo,

My Scenario to run DMVPN, I have some branches has 4MP and other has 8MP, so what it is suitable model for this scenario C1941 or C2951.

If you can help me for that?

Thanks

My Scenario to run DMVPN

DMVPN = encryption.  

I have some branches has 4MP

4 Mbps upload AND download or 4 Mbps shared?

so what it is suitable model for this scenario C1941 or C2951.

Ok, let's presume I am a crazed maniac.  4 Mbps upload AND 4 Mbps download = 8 Mbps.  Add encryption "penalty", say 50% and the total is 12 Mbps.  

If 12 Mbps then 1941 is an "over kill" and an 891 would be suitable, however, what is the plan of the bandwidth 2 or 3 years from now?  If future-proofing is part of the plan then 1941 would fit perfectly to about 50 to 75 Mbps.  

Hi Leo,

Thanks for your support, that mean the 1941 it suitable model for our scenario,

Thanks agian

You may find, the paper I attached on my OP, a better guide to selecting a router based on its performance.

The older reference sheet, that Leo provided, has, for example, the 1941's Kpps as 299, and it translates this as 153.08 Mbps (as defined at the top of the document).  Also note, this PPS rate is for minimal size (Ethernet) packets.

The later whitepaper, in table 1, lists the 1941's Kpps as 330.  This too, going by RFC 2544, uses (Ethernet) minimal packet size.  However, that same table shows maximum Mbps as 2,932 for a 1941.  This though, is for 1500 byte packet sizes.  This shows packet sizes greatly impact the bandwidth throughput of the router.

As to encryption performance, table 2 show that, and for a 1941, 170 Mbps is listed.  Cisco doesn't mention for what packet size, but if also for 1500 byte packets, encryption reduces bandwidth throughput to 5.8% (170 / 2932)!

The whitepaper's other tables, and text, explain other usages and how they impact throughput.

At the end of the whitepaper, Cisco provides a bandwidth capacity recommendation for many ISRs (figure 1).  For the 1941, Cisco recommends it for 25 Mbps of "WAN" bandwidth.  ("WAN" really meaning full duplex, or 50 Mbps of aggregate transit bandwidth.)

This Cisco recommendation is very conservative, it usually insures it's unlikely you'll run into capacity problem regardless of your configuration and traffic, if you don't exceed the recommendation.  But you can often use a "smaller" router than Cisco recommends, if it's not subjected to all the possible situations that lead to Cisco's bandwidth recommendation.

BTW, before this kind of Cisco whitepaper, I use to take the older performance sheet's bandwidth number, divide it by four, to provide a rough ideal of what a particular router was suitable for.  Doing that, for a 1941, I get about 38 Mbps, not that far from Cisco's (again very conservative) recommendation of 25 Mbps.

Thanks Leo and Joseph that mean I have upload and download plus encrypted based on my scenario the bandwidth will be

Thanks again 38%, am I right?

before this kind of Cisco whitepaper, I use to take the older performance sheet's bandwidth number, divide it by four, to provide a rough ideal of what a particular router was suitable for. 

Me too.

Hi Leo,

One more question how you calculate the BW for C1941 about 50 to 75Mpbs since the BW for it is 153.08?

thanks again

One more question how you calculate the BW for C1941 about 50 to 75Mpbs since the BW for it is 153.08?

153.08 Mbps is one-way-traffic (all download or all upload) and NO ENCRYPTION.  Cisco doesn't publish the actual capability, or as I'd like to call it "penalty", when encryption is enabled by the router's on-board (and dedicated) encryption card.  Some of us would calculate 50% of the total quoted bandwidth (actual figures is about 40%).  So 50% of 153.08 is about 76.5 Mbps of one-way traffic and with encryption.  

Then again, not everyone enables encryption so we compute a two-way traffic to be about 76.5 Mbps.  

Joseph W. Doherty
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The Author of this posting offers the information contained within this posting without consideration and with the reader's understanding that there's no implied or expressed suitability or fitness for any purpose. Information provided is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as rendering professional advice of any kind. Usage of this posting's information is solely at reader's own risk.

Liability Disclaimer

In no event shall Author be liable for any damages wha2tsoever (including, without limitation, damages for loss of use, data or profit) arising out of the use or inability to use the posting's information even if Author has been advised of the possibility of such damage.

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As the other posters have already described, perhaps the biggest difference between the two models is their performance capacity.  However, support for modular interfaces may vary too.

I've attached a Cisco white paper that explains how router performance varies under different conditions.  (It actually lists both the 1941 and 2951.)