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Easy Spanning tree question

adelbano33
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Hello gurus.

I have a spanning-tree doubt that sure you can answer me easily.

Imagine you have a network with some loops so spanning tree is blocking redundant ports.

If you have bad placed the root switch (imagine that you have it in the last switch in a cascade) and link to root is flapping.

1st question: Every time you lost connection to root, network recalcule again the root  process?

2nd question:Do you will enter into a loop until root is present again?

Thanks a lot for your answer!

Albert.

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No, as I believe a new root election will be like a new spanning tree startup, i.e. all devices will block all their ports as they learn and decide what the loop free topology is and implement it.  So instead of there being temporary loops, you'll have a temporary outage, as I've noted in my first posting.  (NB: I'm also assuming multiple path links don't have portfast enabled.)

Losing a root bridge is a "big deal", which is another reason why which device is used for it merits careful consideration.

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#1 If the rest of the topology loses access to the root bridge, yes a new root should be selected.

#2 No, assuming there was no loop before the connection was lost to the root, there shouldn't be any loop when the root is "lost".  However, once the topology starts to decide on the new root, and a new logical loop free topology is implemented from the new root, I believe the whole topology will block for some (hopefully short) duration.

Thanks for your help.

Yes, imagine there are several loops, but they are blocked for spanning-tree.

The question is if while root switch is elected, because as you say always spanning tries to found a root, all switches ports are forwarding again and loop accours again...

Thanks

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No, as I believe a new root election will be like a new spanning tree startup, i.e. all devices will block all their ports as they learn and decide what the loop free topology is and implement it.  So instead of there being temporary loops, you'll have a temporary outage, as I've noted in my first posting.  (NB: I'm also assuming multiple path links don't have portfast enabled.)

Losing a root bridge is a "big deal", which is another reason why which device is used for it merits careful consideration.

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