08-15-2015 10:04 AM - edited 03-08-2019 01:22 AM
Hello,
I need to connect 2 datacenters together and span some VLANs across both datacenters. I will have 2 dedicated ethernet links between both datacenters.
How bad would it be to connect switches as shown below and let spanning-tree break the loops (dashs being inter-datacenter links) ?
VLANs that need to span across datacenters are connected to access switches (using active/backup bonding, no LACP because no stack).
IC switches would be used to connect all routers together (2 distinct VLANs, OSPF on top of it and iBGP between loopbacks).
I have read this Cisco document but unfortunately I cannot use vSS. One reason is budget (I have hardware that I must use), the other reason is that we experienced a nasty outage because of stacked switches and it has been definitively ruled out.
I am unsure about EoMPLS and VPLS.
I have read horrible stories about spanning-tree going haywire and I certainly don't want that to happen ...
Can somebody provide some insight on this setup ?
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08-17-2015 09:42 AM
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With rapid-STP (or MSTP), with your latencies and bandwidths, STP behavior should be much like LAN behavior. I.e., I agree with Rick, I think you'll be okay.
Regarding rapid-STP vs. MSTP, yes there's a bit more configuration involved with MSTP, but your switches would only need to run one (or two, if you want to use 2nd link) STP topologies instances, rather than one for each VLAN. If your "less than 100 VLANs" means nearly 100, you might still consider MSTP.
08-17-2015 05:31 AM
What variant of STP are you planning on using?
What's the latency and bandwidth between DCs?
08-17-2015 05:41 AM
I plan to use RPVST+ with less than 100 VLANs. I could use MSTP but I understand it would have more management overhead (manually assigning VLANs to instance), right ?
The links between DCs will be fibers (2 distinct providers, going 2 different paths). Expected latency is less than 1 ms, bandwidth is 1 Gbit/s.
08-17-2015 08:32 AM
The title of the original post asks how bad is a spanning tree loop across two sites. The answer to that question is that any spanning tree loop is very bad, no matter if it is across two sites or is in the same site.
The post then goes on to ask about a design where access switches connect to each other and to IC switches. The IC switches connect to each other, to the access switches, and form the connection between sites. As long as the trunks are correctly configured (be careful that vlans match up and that native vlans match up) and spanning tree is correctly configured then this design should work fine and spanning tree will detect and prevent loops.
HTH
Rick
08-18-2015 01:36 AM
I actually started asking a less specific question and then changed it without updating the title, sorry :-/
Thank you all for your answers. I will pay extra attention to uplinks interfaces.
08-17-2015 09:42 AM
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With rapid-STP (or MSTP), with your latencies and bandwidths, STP behavior should be much like LAN behavior. I.e., I agree with Rick, I think you'll be okay.
Regarding rapid-STP vs. MSTP, yes there's a bit more configuration involved with MSTP, but your switches would only need to run one (or two, if you want to use 2nd link) STP topologies instances, rather than one for each VLAN. If your "less than 100 VLANs" means nearly 100, you might still consider MSTP.
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