05-24-2013 02:28 AM - edited 03-07-2019 01:32 PM
Hi,
Looking for some expert advise/confirmation on what I've read in terms of IOS usage on used routers/hardware:
* I purchase a used Cisco router (say from ebay) which includes a version of IOS (lets say v12.3).
* At this point I have no "rights" to use the IOS software included with the used router without purchasing a new IOS license from Cisco.
Is the above correct?
Note:
* I have no interest/need for formal Cisco technical support.
* I will not even be running IOS on a physical device -- I plan to use IOS for a network simulator (I suspect this is irrelevant).
Based on what I've read this does appear to be the case -- I have no rights to use IOS from the used router.
Thanks
05-24-2013 03:04 AM
No, it is not correct.
05-24-2013 03:17 AM
Paolo, thanks for the response... Can you elaborate?
You are saying in my scenario I WOULD have rights to use IOS provided on the used router?
Thx
05-24-2013 03:22 AM
Yes, you fully do. However, this is a purely technical forum and I will not discuss further on the matter.
05-24-2013 04:54 AM
The way that I read the license agreement indicates that Boden is quite right to ask the question and that legally he does not have the right to use the licensed software on a router that he may have purchased from somewhere like Ebay.
Here is part of the license agreement that we must accept when we download software from Cisco:
License. Conditioned upon compliance with the terms and conditions of the Agreement, Cisco grants to Customer a nonexclusive and nontransferable license to use for Customer's internal business purposes the Software and the Documentation for which Customer has paid the required license fees to an Approved Source.
In particular it says that the license is non transferable.
And here is another section of the license agreement:
Customer specifically agrees not to:
(i) transfer, assign or sublicense its license rights to any other person or entity (other than in compliance with any Cisco relicensing/transfer policy then in force), or use the Software on Cisco equipment not purchased by the Customer from an Approved Source or on secondhand Cisco equipment, and Customer acknowledges that any attempted transfer, assignment, sublicense or use shall be void;
Here is a link to the complete agreement
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/general/warranty/English/EU1KEN_.html
So Boden's concern is well founded. As a practical matter many people purchase used equipement from various non-authorized sources and use the equipment with the existing copy of software. But as a legal question they do not have a legal right to do this.
HTH
Rick
05-24-2013 06:41 AM
Rick,
that is a very simplistic way to read on the matter. There is much more to that than what you quoted, but fact is, discussion does not belong here. Again, I restate my position, that I know for a fact to be correct, then each one is free to believe or do what he wants.
05-24-2013 07:54 AM
Many thanks for both of your responses...
Paolo -- where would be the appropriate place to take this discussion? Cisco help/support does seem to have an interest in providing me with a response via email or phone.
Thx again!
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