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Rapid-pvst Limits on 4500X

heleros
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Today i had several Loops in Customers Network and any Vlans were blocked because we had to change the Core from HSRP to VSS:

So on bot the Distribution Switch, which are connected to the Core it looked like:

------------------ show spanning-tree summary ------------------

Switch is in rapid-pvst mode
Root bridge for: none
Extended system ID           is enabled
Portfast Default             is disabled
PortFast BPDU Guard Default  is disabled
Portfast BPDU Filter Default is disabled
Loopguard Default            is enabled
EtherChannel misconfig guard is enabled
UplinkFast                   is disabled
BackboneFast                 is disabled
Configured Pathcost method used is short

Name                   Blocking Listening Learning Forwarding STP Active
---------------------- -------- --------- -------- ---------- ----------
VLAN0001                     0         0        0         71         71
VLAN0061                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0062                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0063                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0064                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0065                    25         0        0         46         71
VLAN0066                    10         0        0         61         71
VLAN0067                    11         0        0         60         71
VLAN0068                    10         0        0         61         71
VLAN0069                     9         0        0         62         71
VLAN0070                    11         0        0         60         71
VLAN0071                    14         0        0         57         71
VLAN0072                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0073                     8         0        0         63         71
VLAN0079                    26         0        0         45         71
VLAN0080                    20         0        0         51         71
VLAN0081                    21         0        0         50         71
VLAN0082                    21         0        0         50         71
VLAN0083                    32         0        0         39         71
VLAN0084                    19         0        0         52         71
VLAN0085                    21         0        0         50         71
VLAN0087                    22         0        0         49         71
VLAN0088                    18         0        0         53         71
VLAN0089                    23         0        0         48         71
VLAN0090                    27         0        0         44         71
VLAN0092                    25         0        0         46         71
VLAN0093                    23         0        0         48         71
VLAN0094                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0095                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0096                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0097                    13         0        0         58         71
VLAN0098                    19         0        0         52         71
VLAN0099                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0100                    13         0        0         58         71
VLAN0101                    25         0        0         46         71
VLAN0102                    18         0        0         53         71
VLAN0103                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0104                    13         0        0         58         71
VLAN0105                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0106                     7         0        0         64         71
VLAN0107                     7         0        0         64         71
VLAN0110                    12         0        0         59         71
VLAN0111                     4         0        0         67         71
VLAN0112                    14         0        0         57         71
VLAN0114                    11         0        0         60         71
VLAN0115                     7         0        0         64         71
VLAN0116                     6         0        0         65         71
VLAN0117                    13         0        0         58         71
VLAN0118                     5         0        0         66         71
VLAN0130                     7         0        0         64         71
VLAN0132                    12         0        0         59         71
VLAN0200                    15         0        0         56         71
VLAN0210                    10         0        0         61         71
VLAN0220                    13         0        0         58         71
VLAN0230                    24         0        0         47         71
VLAN0240                    23         0        0         48         71
VLAN0246                     8         0        0         63         71
VLAN0250                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0252                    15         0        0         57         72
VLAN0253                    16         0        0         55         71
VLAN0300                    12         0        0         59         71
VLAN0302                    18         0        0         53         71
VLAN0303                    20         0        0         51         71
VLAN0310                     8         0        0         63         71
VLAN0313                    12         0        0         59         71
VLAN0314                     5         0        0         66         71
VLAN0500                     5         0        0         66         71
VLAN0501                     7         0        0         64         71
VLAN0502                     9         0        0         62         71
VLAN0503                    17         0        0         54         71
VLAN0700                     5         0        0         66         71
VLAN0701                     5         0        0         66         71
VLAN0800                     9         0        0         62         71
VLAN0801                     4         0        0         67         71
VLAN0901                     6         0        0         65         71
VLAN1100                     0         0        0         71         71
VLAN1102                     0         0        0         71         71
VLAN1104                     0         0        0         71         71
---------------------- -------- --------- -------- ---------- ----------
78 vlans                  1066         0        0       4473       5539

On both Distribution there are about 90 Switches connected.

The Network were several hours unstable and our fast solution were to disable the Second Distribution Switch, so that there were no Spanning Tree Topology anymore..

I know that there are new Technologies to block Spanning Tree, like Stackwise Virtual and Port-Channels etc... but we had to change this now, because of a new Firewall.

So are the Limits known for an 4500-X-32 for calculating Spanning Tree Calculations ? What can we do to improve that ? MST ?

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Reza Sharifi
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If you are moving away from HSRP and want to use VSS at the core, all switches must connect to the core via Portchannels and not individual Interfaces. Are you connecting the access switches directly to the VSS core? What is topology look like?

HTH

 

I have a Core Switch 4500-X which is now a VSS.

2xVSS Distribution 4500-X which are connected to the Core but the Distribution are not VSS across the data centers, so i cannot form a Port-Channel to the Access Switches.

About 90 Access Switches are connected to both Distribution Switches so 1 link is always normally blocked.

 

So, just to clarify. The core switches are 4500x VSS and the distribution switches are also 4500x but not VSS, right?

 

The Distribution are also VSS but not across the data centers. And every Access Switch has a Fiber to both data centers. So unfortunately i cannot create an etherchannel unless i break the VSS for the Distribution Switches and build up new across the Datacenters.. 

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