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Switch according to the requirment

adamgibs7
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Dears

I want to propose a Distribution and Core Switches and server farm switches, I know that catalyst family 9500, 9600 and Nexus 9300 for server farm switches,

but actually what shld be my questionnaire to the client and what exercise i can do by my end on the exiting switches ( 6509, 6506, 6509) to collect information and to propose the appropriate new model switches.

 

For example.

lets assume if the customer has SUP2T and the switch CPU utilization is only 2 to 5% does it make sense to quote him higher than the SUP2T in the latest technology switches or we can keep the same throughput with new switches.

 

I have listed from my mind some factors to choose the switch please addon to it by your experience

 

Interface utilization on the switches

CPU utilization

Interface requirement.( 10G,40G,100G)

 

Thanks

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Leo Laohoo
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@adamgibs7 wrote:

lets assume if the customer has SUP2T and the switch CPU utilization is only 2 to 5% does it make sense to quote him higher than the SUP2T in the latest technology switches or we can keep the same throughput with new switches.


There are a lot of reasons for hardware upgrade, some of the reasons are: 

  1. True cost of the upgrade (hardware, maintenance, annual subscription & licensing cost, other hidden cost)
  2. Stability of the code; 
  3. Software/security vulnerability; 
  4. Hardware end of support (not just end-of-sale/end-of-life); 
  5. Features;
  6. Stability of the code; &
  7. True cost of the upgrade (hardware, maintenance, annual subscription & licensing cost, other hidden cost)

There are a dwindling number of networks still running 6500 with VS-SUP720 (with SXI/SXJ firmware) but predominantly still on Sup2T.  

If the customer requires 100 Gbps, then it is a no brainer:  Either upgrade to Sup6T or upgrade the chassis completely to a 9600.

Dear Leo

Thanks for the reply,

 

 i m looking for more insights on the sizing of the distribution and core, the customer has already planned for the upgrade the answers provided is for the justification y customer needs to upgrade hence there is no issue for upgrade , 

My question was related to sizing how i will size the network and what should be the questionnaire for the same.

Joseph W. Doherty
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Using CPU utilization, of a switch like a 65xx, with a sup2T, is a rather poor metric. This because, the data plane is handled by dedicated ASICs and the control plane by the CPU. Ideally, you should always see a fairly low CPU utilization, even if the switch is passing lots of data traffic.

Also keep in mind, as you jump up in bandwidth capacities, (at least short term) overall data volumes don't increase, however transfer times should decrease.

You should be able to obtain capacity needs by analysis of your data volume. Then you should analyze if your data transfer times need to be improved. Lastly, you might look at your interface drop statistics.

BTW, although the Nexus series is optimal for large number of servers, the Catalyst series, with the proper hardware, can do quite well too. For example, even your "old" 6500s, if -E models, with a sup2T, offer 80Gbps fabric to line cards. I haven't seen many LAN networks that saturate the sup2T's 2 Tbps fabric.

Your customer might not "need" more performance than their current equipment offers, so similar capacity might be fine, but "newer" is often faster for "equivalent" replacement devices. That shouldn't be assumed, however. Further, newer equipment should be looked at, for its many other aspects (many noted by Leo), too.

Dear Joseph

 

Can you elaborate more on the below point.

 

"You should be able to obtain capacity needs by analysis of your data volume. Then you should analyze if your data transfer times need to be improved. Lastly, you might look at your interface drop statistics."

Well, if you note how much data is moved, and determine how quickly you need to move it, that will indicate your capacity needs.

For example (although WAN related), years ago I worked at an international firm that had some huge data base trans-Atlantic transfers. The time requirement was it had to be done over a weekend. So, knowing data volume, and time element, able to compute minimum bandwidth needed. (Your OP mentioned 10, 40 and 100 G, for forgoing can help you figure what you need.)

Drops may indicate whether your device has sufficient buffers to handle burst and/or whether certain ports might benefit from bandwidth upgrades. This is where chassis switches often perform better than stackable switches for core and/or server hosts.

Dear joseph

Thanks for your reply,

here you applying a WAN connection transfer rate concept, but in my scenario it is campus LAN which is currently running a huge bandwidth interfaces, so what should be questionnaire for the same.

 

Awaiting yours's,  Leo and other expert advise.

Conceptually, for computing bandwidth utilization, LAN and WAN are the same.