09-18-2008
04:37 AM
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04:02 PM
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What causes port-channel5 to become 5A?
Once upon a time there was a (Layer 2) port-channel5, consisting of two Gigabit-Ethernet interfaces Gi10/11 and Gi10/12. Then, after a considerable time I noticed, that it had changed its name to "port-channel5A" although it was still configured as port-channel5.
Then there was an interruption between the two ends. The two Gigabit-Ethernet interfaces went down for about 30 Seconds - and so did port-channel5A. Then Gi10/11 came up again, but Gi10/12 didn't. 5 Seconds later port-channel5 came up (yes, 5, not 5A)
I've removed Gi10/12 from the port-channel, because I'm a bit concerned by this behaviour. What'll happen if I bundle the two Gig-Ports again? Will there be a disruption (will Po5 go down and reappear as Po5A?). I'm not keen on another interruption since it is a vital link between two organizations. And the main question is: what caused the channel to become 5A?
Configuration of the channel is quite straightforward:
interface Port-channel5
switchport
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
switchport trunk allowed vlan 402,403,2811,2813,2815
switchport mode trunk
And the two identical configured Gig-Ports were bundled with "channel-group 5 mode active" which made them an LACP channel.
This was what it looked like, when channel5A was still active.
xxxxx#sh interfaces port-channel 5 etherchannel
Port-channel5 (Primary aggregator)
Age of the Port-channel = 114d:19h:39m:36s
Logical slot/port = 14/5 Number of ports = 0
HotStandBy port = null
Port state = Port-channel Ag-Not-Inuse
Protocol = LACP
Fast-switchover = disabled
Time since last port bundled: 63d:04h:25m:21s Gi10/11
Time since last port Un-bundled: 58d:19h:38m:27s Gi10/12
Port-channel5A
Age of the Port-channel = 1d:03h:14m:27s
Logical slot/port = 14/2 Number of ports = 2
HotStandBy port = null
Port state = Port-channel Ag-Inuse
Protocol = LACP
Fast-switchover = disabled
Ports in the Port-channel:
Index Load Port EC state No of bits
------+------+------+------------------+-----------
0 55 Gi10/11 Active 4
1 AA Gi10/12 Active 4
Time since last port bundled: 1d:03h:14m:25s Gi10/12
Solved! Go to Solution.
07-16-2009 07:32 AM
Please list the interface configuration for both interfaces on both sides that you want to participate in Po5. The Po5A comes up when there is a misconfiguration between the ports.
Secondary Aggregator Ports Po1A or Po2A are Created
A secondary aggregator port will be created in the LACP process when the ports you are
bundling are not compatible with each other, or with their remote peers. The secondary
aggregator port will have the ports which are compatible with others.
Switch#show etherchannel summary
Flags: D - down P - in port-channel
I - stand-alone s - suspended
H - Hot-standby (LACP only)
R - Layer3 S - Layer2
U - in use f - failed to allocate aggregator
u - unsuitable for bundling
Number of channel-groups in use: 6
Number of aggregators: 8
Group Port-channel Protocol Ports
------+-------------+-----------+-----------------------------------------
1 Po1(SU) LACP Gi1/16(P) Gi10/1(P) Gi10/2(P)
2 Po2(SD) LACP
2 Po2A(SU) LACP Gi1/15(P) Gi10/3(P) Gi10/4(P)
3 Po3(SU) LACP Gi1/14(P) Gi10/5(P) Gi10/6(P)
4 Po4(SD) LACP
4 Po4A(SU) LACP Gi1/13(P) Gi10/7(P) Gi10/8(P)
5 Po5(SU) LACP Gi1/12(P) Gi10/9(P) Gi10/10(P)
6 Po6(SU) LACP Gi1/11(P) Gi10/11(P) Gi10/12(P)
Configure all LAN ports in an EtherChannel to operate at the same speed and in the same
duplex mode. LACP does not support half-duplex. Half-duplex ports in an LACP EtherChannel
are put in the suspended state.
If you configure an EtherChannel from trunking LAN ports, verify that the trunking mode is
the same on all the trunks. LAN ports in an EtherChannel with different trunk modes can
operate unpredictably.
LAN ports with different STP port path costs can form an EtherChannel as long they are
compatibly configured with each other. If you set different STP port path costs, the LAN
ports are not incompatible for the formation of an EtherChannel
Also TAC mentioned the following to me when I had a case with some issues because of this.
Going through the case notes, it seems that another port channel interface
po4a has been created. The information you found is correct. This behavior
is basically a spawned etherchannel, LACP can spawn a secondary portchannel
when there is an incompatible port config, this can only happen in LACP and
it's usually with a misconfiguration of the etherchannel. This is normal
operation of the LACP, it will happen when LACP protocol detects some
inconsistency as per the IEEE 802.3ad standard. Most definitely this should
not impact anything in the network.
The port channel created a spawn port channel .The LACP etherchannels is
functioning correctly as a spawn but to get rid of it, I would suggest you
to schedule a down time and take down the port-channel, put the
configurations to
default, shut the interfaces and recreate both sides and make sure the
configuration is the same in both sides.
09-18-2008 04:43 AM
Hello Beat,
I've noticed the same thing on some of our switches.
My idea is that the A stands for automatic and implies a successful LACP negotiation.
Hope to help
Giuseppe
09-18-2008 05:30 AM
Hello Giuseppe
Thanks for your suggestion, but I'm not sure. On the other end of the channel there's only a port-channel5 but no 5A. I get the impression that there's something wrong.
Beat
07-16-2009 07:32 AM
Please list the interface configuration for both interfaces on both sides that you want to participate in Po5. The Po5A comes up when there is a misconfiguration between the ports.
Secondary Aggregator Ports Po1A or Po2A are Created
A secondary aggregator port will be created in the LACP process when the ports you are
bundling are not compatible with each other, or with their remote peers. The secondary
aggregator port will have the ports which are compatible with others.
Switch#show etherchannel summary
Flags: D - down P - in port-channel
I - stand-alone s - suspended
H - Hot-standby (LACP only)
R - Layer3 S - Layer2
U - in use f - failed to allocate aggregator
u - unsuitable for bundling
Number of channel-groups in use: 6
Number of aggregators: 8
Group Port-channel Protocol Ports
------+-------------+-----------+-----------------------------------------
1 Po1(SU) LACP Gi1/16(P) Gi10/1(P) Gi10/2(P)
2 Po2(SD) LACP
2 Po2A(SU) LACP Gi1/15(P) Gi10/3(P) Gi10/4(P)
3 Po3(SU) LACP Gi1/14(P) Gi10/5(P) Gi10/6(P)
4 Po4(SD) LACP
4 Po4A(SU) LACP Gi1/13(P) Gi10/7(P) Gi10/8(P)
5 Po5(SU) LACP Gi1/12(P) Gi10/9(P) Gi10/10(P)
6 Po6(SU) LACP Gi1/11(P) Gi10/11(P) Gi10/12(P)
Configure all LAN ports in an EtherChannel to operate at the same speed and in the same
duplex mode. LACP does not support half-duplex. Half-duplex ports in an LACP EtherChannel
are put in the suspended state.
If you configure an EtherChannel from trunking LAN ports, verify that the trunking mode is
the same on all the trunks. LAN ports in an EtherChannel with different trunk modes can
operate unpredictably.
LAN ports with different STP port path costs can form an EtherChannel as long they are
compatibly configured with each other. If you set different STP port path costs, the LAN
ports are not incompatible for the formation of an EtherChannel
Also TAC mentioned the following to me when I had a case with some issues because of this.
Going through the case notes, it seems that another port channel interface
po4a has been created. The information you found is correct. This behavior
is basically a spawned etherchannel, LACP can spawn a secondary portchannel
when there is an incompatible port config, this can only happen in LACP and
it's usually with a misconfiguration of the etherchannel. This is normal
operation of the LACP, it will happen when LACP protocol detects some
inconsistency as per the IEEE 802.3ad standard. Most definitely this should
not impact anything in the network.
The port channel created a spawn port channel .The LACP etherchannels is
functioning correctly as a spawn but to get rid of it, I would suggest you
to schedule a down time and take down the port-channel, put the
configurations to
default, shut the interfaces and recreate both sides and make sure the
configuration is the same in both sides.
10-13-2009 09:47 PM
Thanks, matter resolved.
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