Thanks Joseph - correct with the 4Ks. That is what we are using now at most of our sites. And the throughput license does simplify, but like you said makes you get a bigger router or throughput license than you might actually need. Thanks again, Pat ... View more

So by table 2s recommendation, it will only support 62.5 Mbps Full duplex? I didn't see a half duplex designation. Regardless, if we were to use a 2911 for a 100 Mbps circuit, bandwidth would not be limited until the CPU was taxed, right? What I am trying to ask is, if using a 2911 for WAN connectivity utilizing QoS, we wouldn't suddenly be governed to 62.5? or would we? Or, would any limitations show up in CPU over utilization first? Thank you, Pat ... View more

So WAN.png appears to show how a consumer should pick a router based on using QoS.....2911 125 Mbps. Then WAN2.png shows how a consumer should pick a router based on an average use case...I assume? Seems to be huge spec differences... Thanks ... View more

After reading the doc closer, it appears there are all these caveats... They explain how voice packets are much smaller and will effect the CPU more and so on....how is one to figure this out...? Do we need to perform our own tests? Or, maybe install the 2911 and watch the CPU? Thanks ... View more

Thanks for the feedback... Why would you consider it undersized? To me this document makes it seem like it should be fine. Table 3 says the 2911 can handle 225Mbps and that is with encrypted tunnels. Thank you ... View more

Thanks John, but no...nobody has modified the switch after I installed the new image. This is what I saw right after I performed the upgrade. Perhaps if I deleted the boot statement and reloaded the switch it might display "flash:packages.conf"? I was hoping someone had seen this error before. Thx ... View more

Here is some show client info: Client MAC Address............................... 7c:7a:91:bf:33:9e Client Username ................................. USER AP MAC Address................................... 84:3d:c6:08:23:d0 AP Name.......................................... BOS-AP07 AP radio slot Id................................. 1 Client State..................................... Associated Client User Group................................ USER Client NAC OOB State............................. Access Wireless LAN Id.................................. 1 Wireless LAN Network Name (SSID)................. SSID Wireless LAN Profile Name........................ SSID Hotspot (802.11u)................................ Not Supported BSSID............................................ 84:3d:c6:08:23:df Connected For ................................... 3274 secs Channel.......................................... 161 IP Address....................................... 10.25.222.61 Gateway Address.................................. 10.25.222.1 Netmask.......................................... 255.255.254.0 Association Id................................... 2 Authentication Algorithm......................... Open System Reason Code...................................... 1 Status Code...................................... 0 --More-- or (q)uit Client CCX version............................... 4 Client E2E version............................... No E2E support Re-Authentication Timeout........................ 301 QoS Level........................................ Silver Avg data Rate.................................... 0 Burst data Rate.................................. 0 Avg Real time data Rate.......................... 0 Burst Real Time data Rate........................ 0 Avg Uplink data Rate............................. 0 Burst Uplink data Rate........................... 0 Avg Uplink Real time data Rate................... 0 Burst Uplink Real Time data Rate................. 0 802.1P Priority Tag.............................. disabled CTS Security Group Tag........................... Not Applicable KTS CAC Capability............................... No Qos Map Capability............................... No WMM Support...................................... Enabled   APSD ACs.......................................  BK(T/D)  BE(T/D)  VI(T/D)  VO(T/D) Current Rate..................................... m8 ss2 Supported Rates.................................. 6.0,9.0,12.0,18.0,24.0,36.0,     ............................................. 48.0,54.0 Mobility State................................... Local Mobility Move Count.............................. 0 --More-- or (q)uit Security Policy Completed........................ Yes Policy Manager State............................. RUN Audit Session ID................................. 0a14cb0b0002b1c55829d83d AAA Role Type.................................... none Local Policy Applied............................. none IPv4 ACL Name.................................... none FlexConnect ACL Applied Status................... Unavailable IPv4 ACL Applied Status.......................... Unavailable IPv6 ACL Name.................................... none IPv6 ACL Applied Status.......................... Unavailable Layer2 ACL Name.................................. none Layer2 ACL Applied Status........................ Unavailable URL ACL Name..................................... none URL ACL Applied Status........................... Unavailable Client Type...................................... SimpleIP mDNS Status...................................... Disabled mDNS Profile Name................................ none No. of mDNS Services Advertised.................. 0 Policy Type...................................... WPA2 Authentication Key Management.................... CCKM Encryption Cipher................................ CCMP (AES) Protected Management Frame ...................... No Management Frame Protection...................... No --More-- or (q)uit EAP Type......................................... PEAP FlexConnect Data Switching....................... Local FlexConnect Dhcp Status.......................... Local FlexConnect Vlan Based Central Switching......... No FlexConnect Authentication....................... Central FlexConnect Central Association.................. No FlexConnect VLAN NAME............................ SSID Quarantine VLAN.................................. 0 Access VLAN...................................... 0 Local Bridging VLAN.............................. 222 Client Capabilities:       CF Pollable................................ Not implemented       CF Poll Request............................ Not implemented       Short Preamble............................. Not implemented       PBCC....................................... Not implemented       Channel Agility............................ Not implemented       Listen Interval............................ 225       Fast BSS Transition........................ Not implemented       11v BSS Transition......................... Not implemented Client Wifi Direct Capabilities:       WFD capable................................ No       Manged WFD capable......................... No       Cross Connection Capable................... No --More-- or (q)uit       Support Concurrent Operation............... No Fast BSS Transition Details: Client Statistics:       Number of Bytes Received................... 1739527       Number of Bytes Sent....................... 17284424       Total Number of Bytes Sent................. 17284424       Total Number of Bytes Recv................. 1739527       Number of Bytes Sent (last 90s)............ 16724       Number of Bytes Recv (last 90s)............ 33112       Number of Packets Received................. 10162       Number of Packets Sent..................... 19363       Number of Interim-Update Sent.............. 0       Number of EAP Id Request Msg Timeouts...... 0       Number of EAP Id Request Msg Failures...... 0       Number of EAP Request Msg Timeouts......... 0       Number of EAP Request Msg Failures......... 0       Number of EAP Key Msg Timeouts............. 0       Number of EAP Key Msg Failures............. 0       Number of Data Retries..................... 7927       Number of RTS Retries...................... 0       Number of Duplicate Received Packets....... 1       Number of Decrypt Failed Packets........... 0       Number of Mic Failured Packets............. 0 --More-- or (q)uit       Number of Mic Missing Packets.............. 0       Number of RA Packets Dropped............... 0       Number of Policy Errors.................... 0       Radio Signal Strength Indicator............ -59 dBm       Signal to Noise Ratio...................... 35 dB Client Rate Limiting Statistics:       Number of Data Packets Received............ 0       Number of Data Rx Packets Dropped.......... 0       Number of Data Bytes Received.............. 0       Number of Data Rx Bytes Dropped............ 0       Number of Realtime Packets Received........ 0       Number of Realtime Rx Packets Dropped...... 0       Number of Realtime Bytes Received.......... 0       Number of Realtime Rx Bytes Dropped........ 0       Number of Data Packets Sent................ 0       Number of Data Tx Packets Dropped.......... 0       Number of Data Bytes Sent.................. 0       Number of Data Tx Bytes Dropped............ 0       Number of Realtime Packets Sent............ 0       Number of Realtime Tx Packets Dropped...... 0       Number of Realtime Bytes Sent.............. 0       Number of Realtime Tx Bytes Dropped........ 0 Nearby AP Statistics: --More-- or (q)uit       BOS-AP01(slot 0)         antenna0: 18 secs ago.................... -61 dBm         antenna1: 18 secs ago.................... -60 dBm       BOS-AP01(slot 1)         antenna0: 20 secs ago.................... -63 dBm         antenna1: 20 secs ago.................... -60 dBm       BOS-AP06(slot 0)         antenna0: 18 secs ago.................... -48 dBm         antenna1: 18 secs ago.................... -44 dBm       BOS-AP06(slot 1)         antenna0: 20 secs ago.................... -58 dBm         antenna1: 20 secs ago.................... -57 dBm       BOS-AP07(slot 0)         antenna0: 18 secs ago.................... -54 dBm         antenna1: 18 secs ago.................... -50 dBm       BOS-AP07(slot 1)         antenna0: 20 secs ago.................... -58 dBm         antenna1: 20 secs ago.................... -65 dBm       BOS-AP03(slot 0)         antenna0: 1226 secs ago.................. -81 dBm         antenna1: 1226 secs ago.................. -82 dBm       BOS-AP04(slot 0)         antenna0: 1226 secs ago.................. -74 dBm --More-- or (q)uit         antenna1: 1226 secs ago.................. -76 dBm       BOS-AP04(slot 1)         antenna0: 20 secs ago.................... -79 dBm         antenna1: 20 secs ago.................... -84 dBm       BOS-AP02(slot 0)         antenna0: 18 secs ago.................... -83 dBm         antenna1: 18 secs ago.................... -85 dBm DNS Server details:       DNS server IP ............................. x.x.x.x       DNS server IP ............................. x.x.x.x Assisted Roaming Prediction List details:  Client Dhcp Required:     True Allowed (URL)IP Addresses ------------------------- AVC Profile Name: ............................... SSID Fastlane Client: ................................ No I attached a link test from the Controller to the client as well...seems to be alot of Transmit Replies at AP everytime I run the test. Also, I would like to mention that we are using a mix of 3702I-A-K9 and B-K9 APs. I've read that it shouldn't cause any issues, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Thx, Pat ... View more

Thanks for your response - I think I need to hit the books on QoS...started reading the new End to End Qos book. QoS is tricky and seems counter-intuitive... So are you saying it is OK to not match the percentages that our provider has allocated for the 4 queues - 20/20/20/40? In your example class LLQ is for priority IPP 5, the class foreground is for IPP 4 6 7 and so on..? Why such a high percentage for Foreground? Thank you ... View more

Here is the WLAN and sysinfo: (Cisco Controller) >show wlan 1 WLAN Identifier.................................. 1 Profile Name..................................... SkillSecure Network Name (SSID).............................. SkillSecure Status........................................... Enabled MAC Filtering.................................... Disabled Broadcast SSID................................... Enabled AAA Policy Override.............................. Disabled Network Admission Control Client Profiling Status     Radius Profiling ............................ Disabled      DHCP ....................................... Disabled      HTTP ....................................... Disabled     Local Profiling ............................. Enabled      DHCP ....................................... Enabled      HTTP ....................................... Enabled   Radius-NAC State............................... Disabled   SNMP-NAC State................................. Disabled   Quarantine VLAN................................ 0 Maximum Clients Allowed.......................... Unlimited Maximum number of Clients per AP Radio........... 200 --More-- or (q)uit ATF Policy....................................... 0 Number of Active Clients......................... 393 Exclusionlist Timeout............................ 60 seconds Session Timeout.................................. 1800 seconds User Idle Timeout................................ Disabled Sleep Client..................................... disable Sleep Client Timeout............................. 720 minutes User Idle Threshold.............................. 0 Bytes NAS-identifier................................... none CHD per WLAN..................................... Enabled Webauth DHCP exclusion........................... Disabled Interface........................................ skillsecure Multicast Interface.............................. Not Configured WLAN IPv4 ACL.................................... unconfigured WLAN IPv6 ACL.................................... unconfigured WLAN Layer2 ACL.................................. unconfigured WLAN URL ACL..................................... unconfigured mDNS Status...................................... Disabled mDNS Profile Name................................ unconfigured DHCP Server...................................... Default DHCP Address Assignment Required................. Enabled Static IP client tunneling....................... Disabled Tunnel Profile................................... Unconfigured --More-- or (q)uit PMIPv6 Mobility Type............................. none     PMIPv6 MAG Profile........................... Unconfigured     PMIPv6 Default Realm......................... Unconfigured     PMIPv6 NAI Type.............................. Hexadecimal     PMIPv6 MAG location.......................... AP Quality of Service............................... Silver Per-SSID Rate Limits............................. Upstream      Downstream Average Data Rate................................   0             0 Average Realtime Data Rate.......................   0             0 Burst Data Rate..................................   0             0 Burst Realtime Data Rate.........................   0             0 Per-Client Rate Limits........................... Upstream      Downstream Average Data Rate................................   0             0 Average Realtime Data Rate.......................   0             0 Burst Data Rate..................................   0             0 Burst Realtime Data Rate.........................   0             0 Scan Defer Priority.............................. 4,5,6 Scan Defer Time.................................. 100 milliseconds WMM.............................................. Allowed WMM UAPSD Compliant Client Support............... Disabled Media Stream Multicast-direct.................... Disabled CCX - AironetIe Support.......................... Disabled CCX - Gratuitous ProbeResponse (GPR)............. Disabled --More-- or (q)uit CCX - Diagnostics Channel Capability............. Disabled Dot11-Phone Mode (7920).......................... Disabled Wired Protocol................................... 802.1P (Tag=0) Passive Client Feature........................... Disabled Peer-to-Peer Blocking Action..................... Disabled Radio Policy..................................... All DTIM period for 802.11a radio.................... 1 DTIM period for 802.11b radio.................... 1 Radius Servers    Authentication................................ 10.20.116.12 1812    Authentication................................ 10.1.116.112 1812 *    Accounting.................................... Disabled    Dynamic Interface............................. Disabled    Dynamic Interface Priority.................... wlan Local EAP Authentication......................... Disabled Radius NAI-Realm................................. Disabled Mu-Mimo.......................................... Enabled Security    802.11 Authentication:........................ Open System    FT Support.................................... Disabled    Static WEP Keys............................... Disabled    802.1X........................................ Disabled --More-- or (q)uit    Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA/WPA2)............. Enabled       WPA (SSN IE)............................... Disabled       WPA2 (RSN IE).............................. Enabled          TKIP Cipher............................. Disabled          AES Cipher.............................. Enabled       OSEN IE.................................... Disabled       Auth Key Management          802.1x.................................. Enabled          PSK..................................... Disabled          CCKM.................................... Enabled          FT-1X(802.11r).......................... Disabled          FT-PSK(802.11r)......................... Disabled          PMF-1X(802.11w)......................... Enabled          PMF-PSK(802.11w)........................ Disabled          OSEN-1X................................. Disabled       FT Reassociation Timeout................... 20       FT Over-The-DS mode........................ Enabled       GTK Randomization.......................... Disabled       SKC Cache Support.......................... Disabled       CCKM TSF Tolerance......................... 1000    Wi-Fi Direct policy configured................ Disabled    EAP-Passthrough............................... Disabled    CKIP ......................................... Disabled --More-- or (q)uit    Web Based Authentication...................... Disabled    Web Authentication Timeout.................... 300    Web-Passthrough............................... Disabled    Mac-auth-server............................... 0.0.0.0    Web-portal-server............................. 0.0.0.0    Conditional Web Redirect...................... Disabled    Splash-Page Web Redirect...................... Disabled    Auto Anchor................................... Disabled    FlexConnect Local Switching................... Enabled    FlexConnect Central Association............... Disabled    flexconnect Central Dhcp Flag................. Disabled    flexconnect nat-pat Flag...................... Disabled    flexconnect Dns Override Flag................. Disabled    flexconnect PPPoE pass-through................ Disabled    flexconnect local-switching IP-source-guar.... Disabled    FlexConnect Vlan based Central Switching ..... Disabled    FlexConnect Local Authentication.............. Disabled    FlexConnect Learn IP Address.................. Enabled    Client MFP.................................... Optional    PMF........................................... Optional    PMF Association Comeback Time................. 1    PMF SA Query RetryTimeout..................... 200    Tkip MIC Countermeasure Hold-down Timer....... 60 --More-- or (q)uit    Eap-params.................................... Enabled       EAP-Identity-Request Timeout (seconds)..... 45       EAP-Identity-Request Max Retries........... 4       EAP-Request Timeout (seconds).............. 45       EAP-Request Max Retries.................... 4       EAPOL-Key Timeout (milliseconds)........... 2000       EAPOL-Key Max Retries...................... 3 AVC Visibilty.................................... Enabled AVC Profile Name................................. SkillSecure Flex Avc Profile Name............................ None Flow Monitor Name................................ None Split Tunnel Configuration     Split Tunnel................................. Disabled Call Snooping.................................... Disabled Roamed Call Re-Anchor Policy..................... Disabled SIP CAC Fail Send-486-Busy Policy................ Enabled SIP CAC Fail Send Dis-Association Policy......... Disabled KTS based CAC Policy............................. Disabled Assisted Roaming Prediction Optimization......... Disabled 802.11k Neighbor List............................ Enabled 802.11k Neighbor List Dual Band.................. Disabled 802.11v Directed Multicast Service............... Enabled 802.11v BSS Max Idle Service..................... Enabled --More-- or (q)uit 802.11v BSS Transition Service................... Disabled 802.11v BSS Transition Disassoc Imminent......... Disabled 802.11v BSS Transition Disassoc Timer............ 200 802.11v BSS Transition OpRoam Disassoc Timer..... 40 Number of active DMS Clients..................... 4 DMS ID           Client MAC Addresses 1               1c:5c:f2:87:ed:d7                 c4:b3:01:3e:0b:cd                 dc:9b:9c:16:e2:89                 68:fb:7e:28:75:73 Band Select...................................... Enabled Load Balancing................................... Client-Count Based Multicast Buffer................................. Disabled Universal Ap Admin............................... Enabled Broadcast Tagging................................ Disabled  Mobility Anchor List  WLAN ID     IP Address            Status                             Priority  -------     ---------------       ------                             -------- 802.11u........................................ Disabled --More-- or (q)uit MSAP Services.................................. Disabled Local Policy ---------------- Priority  Policy Name --------  --------------- Lync State ...................................... Disabled Audio QoS Policy................................. Silver Video QoS Policy................................. Silver App-Share QoS Policy............................. Silver File Transfer QoS Policy......................... Silver QoS Fastlane Status.............................. Disable (Cisco Controller) >show sysinfo Manufacturer's Name.............................. Cisco Systems Inc. Product Name..................................... Cisco Controller Product Version.................................. 8.3.102.0 Bootloader Version............................... 1.0.20 Field Recovery Image Version..................... 7.6.101.1 Firmware Version................................. FPGA 1.7, Env 1.8, USB console 2.2 OUI File Update Time............................. Sun Sep 07 10:44:07 IST 2014 Build Type....................................... DATA + WPS System Name...................................... NAS-WIRE-WAC1 System Location.................................. Nashua 300 Computer Room System Contact................................... Global Network Team System ObjectID.................................. 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.1.1069 Redundancy Mode.................................. SSO IP Address....................................... 10.20.203.11 IPv6 Address..................................... :: Last Reset....................................... Software reset System Up Time................................... 6 days 11 hrs 31 mins 29 secs System Timezone Location......................... (GMT -5:00) Eastern Time (US and Canada) System Stats Realtime Interval................... 5 --More-- or (q)uit System Stats Normal Interval..................... 180 Configured Country............................... Multiple Countries : CA,DE,FR,GB,IE,IN,US Operating Environment............................ Commercial (0 to 40 C) Internal Temp Alarm Limits....................... 0 to 65 C Internal Temperature............................. +42 C External Temperature............................. +23 C Fan Status....................................... OK State of 802.11b Network......................... Enabled State of 802.11a Network......................... Enabled Number of WLANs.................................. 3 Number of Active Clients......................... 666 OUI Classification Failure Count................. 47605 Burned-in MAC Address............................ F8:66:F2:FA:3B:00 Power Supply 1................................... Present, OK Power Supply 2................................... Present, OK Maximum number of APs supported.................. 500 System Nas-Id.................................... NAS-WIRE-WAC1 WLC MIC Certificate Types........................ SHA1 --More-- or (q)uit (Cisco Controller) >? clear          Clear selected configuration elements. config         Configure switch options and settings. cping          Send capwap echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. debug          Manages system debug options. eping          Send Ethernet-over-IP echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. grep           Print lines matching a pattern. help           Help license        Manage Software License linktest       Perform a link test to a specified MAC address. logout         Exit this session. Any unsaved changes are lost. mping          Send Mobility echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. ping           Send ICMP echo packets to a specified IP address. redundancy     Manage HA Redundancy reset          Reboot (hard reload) options. rping          Send Redundancy ping packets to peer RP and RMI save           Save switch configurations. show           Display switch options and settings. test           Test trigger commands transfer       Transfer a file to or from the switch. (Cisco Controller) >? clear          Clear selected configuration elements. config         Configure switch options and settings. cping          Send capwap echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. debug          Manages system debug options. eping          Send Ethernet-over-IP echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. grep           Print lines matching a pattern. help           Help license        Manage Software License linktest       Perform a link test to a specified MAC address. logout         Exit this session. Any unsaved changes are lost. mping          Send Mobility echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. ping           Send ICMP echo packets to a specified IP address. redundancy     Manage HA Redundancy reset          Reboot (hard reload) options. rping          Send Redundancy ping packets to peer RP and RMI save           Save switch configurations. show           Display switch options and settings. test           Test trigger commands transfer       Transfer a file to or from the switch. (Cisco Controller) >? clear          Clear selected configuration elements. config         Configure switch options and settings. cping          Send capwap echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. debug          Manages system debug options. eping          Send Ethernet-over-IP echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. grep           Print lines matching a pattern. help           Help license        Manage Software License linktest       Perform a link test to a specified MAC address. logout         Exit this session. Any unsaved changes are lost. mping          Send Mobility echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. ping           Send ICMP echo packets to a specified IP address. redundancy     Manage HA Redundancy reset          Reboot (hard reload) options. rping          Send Redundancy ping packets to peer RP and RMI save           Save switch configurations. show           Display switch options and settings. test           Test trigger commands transfer       Transfer a file to or from the switch. (Cisco Controller) >? clear          Clear selected configuration elements. config         Configure switch options and settings. cping          Send capwap echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. debug          Manages system debug options. eping          Send Ethernet-over-IP echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. grep           Print lines matching a pattern. help           Help license        Manage Software License linktest       Perform a link test to a specified MAC address. logout         Exit this session. Any unsaved changes are lost. mping          Send Mobility echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. ping           Send ICMP echo packets to a specified IP address. redundancy     Manage HA Redundancy reset          Reboot (hard reload) options. rping          Send Redundancy ping packets to peer RP and RMI save           Save switch configurations. show           Display switch options and settings. test           Test trigger commands transfer       Transfer a file to or from the switch. (Cisco Controller) >? clear          Clear selected configuration elements. config         Configure switch options and settings. cping          Send capwap echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. debug          Manages system debug options. eping          Send Ethernet-over-IP echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. grep           Print lines matching a pattern. help           Help license        Manage Software License linktest       Perform a link test to a specified MAC address. logout         Exit this session. Any unsaved changes are lost. mping          Send Mobility echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. ping           Send ICMP echo packets to a specified IP address. redundancy     Manage HA Redundancy reset          Reboot (hard reload) options. rping          Send Redundancy ping packets to peer RP and RMI save           Save switch configurations. show           Display switch options and settings. test           Test trigger commands transfer       Transfer a file to or from the switch. (Cisco Controller) >? clear          Clear selected configuration elements. config         Configure switch options and settings. cping          Send capwap echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. debug          Manages system debug options. eping          Send Ethernet-over-IP echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. grep           Print lines matching a pattern. help           Help license        Manage Software License linktest       Perform a link test to a specified MAC address. logout         Exit this session. Any unsaved changes are lost. mping          Send Mobility echo packets to a specified mobility peer IP address. ping           Send ICMP echo packets to a specified IP address. redundancy     Manage HA Redundancy reset          Reboot (hard reload) options. rping          Send Redundancy ping packets to peer RP and RMI save           Save switch configurations. show           Display switch options and settings. test           Test trigger commands transfer       Transfer a file to or from the switch. ... View more