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Cisco Site-to-Site VPN - Interesting Traffic Required to Establish VPN or not?

AJAZ NAWAZ
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Really quick and easy one for VPN guru's out there ....

 

Essentially, I'm setting up a backup VPN, but there's NO interesting traffic unfortunately and we need VPN up.

 

So... is it possible?

 

thanks in advance

 

Ajaz

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I also want to add to David's reply. Some keep-alive mechanisms depending on which firewall and configuration you are using either have phase 1 keep-alive, or complete end to end phase 2 keep-alive.

I don't know the Cisco equivalent or if they even have one. Example of this with Juniper dead-peer-detection (DPD) only sends IKEv1/2 keep-alives, whereas VPN monitoring sends ICMP echo requests to keep the VPN up / or declare it dead.

With DPD, there isn't exactly any interesting traffic probing, its just the IKE "hello are you there" messages. After a while, the vpn may go down due to lack of interesting traffic or have to re-negotiate phase 2. Though to create interesting traffic, you could set an ip sla for icmp end to end.

You may have noticed in the past that VPN just goes down after a while (if you have had this setup)

On the ASA there are three modes RE how the negotiation actually starts

Answer-Only: Specifies that this peer only responds to inbound IKE connections first during the initial proprietary exchange to determine the appropriate peer to connect to.

Bidirectional (Default): Specifies that this peer can accept and originate connections based on this crypto map entry. This is the default connection type for all Site-to-Site connections. [Only if interesting traffic is matched]

Originate-Only: Specifies that this peer initiates the first proprietary exchange to determine the appropriate peer to connect to.

For ASA Experts out there, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hope this helps

Bilal

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Hello Ajaz,

 

On this case if you want a VPN to work, it is a most to have phase 1 and phase 2 working and set up correctly on both sides.

 

Basically: Interesting traffic on phase 2 is completely required to have the VPN up. Now it should match up on both sides.

 

A VPN without interesting traffic would not come up and will not build a Security Association.

 

Please don't forget to rate and mark as correct the helpful Post!

 

David Castro,

 

Regards,

I also want to add to David's reply. Some keep-alive mechanisms depending on which firewall and configuration you are using either have phase 1 keep-alive, or complete end to end phase 2 keep-alive.

I don't know the Cisco equivalent or if they even have one. Example of this with Juniper dead-peer-detection (DPD) only sends IKEv1/2 keep-alives, whereas VPN monitoring sends ICMP echo requests to keep the VPN up / or declare it dead.

With DPD, there isn't exactly any interesting traffic probing, its just the IKE "hello are you there" messages. After a while, the vpn may go down due to lack of interesting traffic or have to re-negotiate phase 2. Though to create interesting traffic, you could set an ip sla for icmp end to end.

You may have noticed in the past that VPN just goes down after a while (if you have had this setup)

On the ASA there are three modes RE how the negotiation actually starts

Answer-Only: Specifies that this peer only responds to inbound IKE connections first during the initial proprietary exchange to determine the appropriate peer to connect to.

Bidirectional (Default): Specifies that this peer can accept and originate connections based on this crypto map entry. This is the default connection type for all Site-to-Site connections. [Only if interesting traffic is matched]

Originate-Only: Specifies that this peer initiates the first proprietary exchange to determine the appropriate peer to connect to.

For ASA Experts out there, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hope this helps

Bilal

Please rate useful posts & remember to mark any solved questions as answered. Thank you.