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3rd party wireless bridge

rschwart
Level 1
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I have an outside vendor using a Moog/Videolarm bridge device for security gate access. The moog/videolarm ap is set as a transparent bridge connecting to an ssid we have set up for them. The device connects with the correct credentials, but the black box connected to the bridge responds to a ping sometimes. I set a constant ping to the 2 devices, the ap/bridge and the black box: the bridge reponds for 25 pings then stops and the black box responds 25 pings and then the ap/bridge starts responding. Any suggestions thoughts, I really don't want to put up a bridge just for one device.

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Justin Kurynny
Level 4
Level 4

rschwart,

If you are using a lightweight access point and a controller as your root AP in this setup, then what I think you're seeing is that transparent bridging not working correctly because of the strict 1:1 MAC:IP relationship in a client connection record. With a root AP in local mode, the recommended and cleanest way around this on the client/bridged side is to use a WGB. Here is what Cisco has to say about client bridges and WGBs in the CUWN environment:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.0/configuration/guide/c70lwap.html#wp1144634

Despite this, you may have some other ways around this problem, and one or more of the following options may work for you:

  • Disable the IP-MAC address binding check on the controller CLI:

wlc> config network ip-mac-binding disable

  • If the option is available, configure the Moog/Videolarm device as an L3 routed device (i.e., a wireless router). Configure a new network on the "LAN" side of the Moog/Videolarm device and put your black box on that network. Use a static IP or DHCP to always assign the same IP to the "WAN" side of the Moog/Videolarm and then put a route behind the controller on your upstream L3 device to route all of your "LAN" traffic to that static/reserved "WAN" IP.

  • Change your lightweight root AP to bridge mode and when the HREAP tab appears in AP configuration mode, make it a Root AP. This will tell the controller that the 1:1 relationship of MAC:IP no longer applies. I'm not 100% sure of the ramifications otherwise (client access, RRM) of this change, and your Moog/Videolarm may not even be able to associate, but it could be worth trying just to see if you get a change in behavior.

  • If the option is available, configure MAC cloning of the black box on the Moog/Videolarm device. This way the controller only sees one MAC on the other side of the bridge link (even though you have two separate devices).

Justin

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Justin Kurynny
Level 4
Level 4

rschwart,

If you are using a lightweight access point and a controller as your root AP in this setup, then what I think you're seeing is that transparent bridging not working correctly because of the strict 1:1 MAC:IP relationship in a client connection record. With a root AP in local mode, the recommended and cleanest way around this on the client/bridged side is to use a WGB. Here is what Cisco has to say about client bridges and WGBs in the CUWN environment:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.0/configuration/guide/c70lwap.html#wp1144634

Despite this, you may have some other ways around this problem, and one or more of the following options may work for you:

  • Disable the IP-MAC address binding check on the controller CLI:

wlc> config network ip-mac-binding disable

  • If the option is available, configure the Moog/Videolarm device as an L3 routed device (i.e., a wireless router). Configure a new network on the "LAN" side of the Moog/Videolarm device and put your black box on that network. Use a static IP or DHCP to always assign the same IP to the "WAN" side of the Moog/Videolarm and then put a route behind the controller on your upstream L3 device to route all of your "LAN" traffic to that static/reserved "WAN" IP.

  • Change your lightweight root AP to bridge mode and when the HREAP tab appears in AP configuration mode, make it a Root AP. This will tell the controller that the 1:1 relationship of MAC:IP no longer applies. I'm not 100% sure of the ramifications otherwise (client access, RRM) of this change, and your Moog/Videolarm may not even be able to associate, but it could be worth trying just to see if you get a change in behavior.

  • If the option is available, configure MAC cloning of the black box on the Moog/Videolarm device. This way the controller only sees one MAC on the other side of the bridge link (even though you have two separate devices).

Justin

Thanks for the help. This did resolve our issue and everything works for our vendor.

rschwart,

Did the vendor tell you which method they used to fix the issue?

Thanks for marking answered.

Justin

Sorry, I should have been more clear, I used the cli wlc>config network ip-mac-binding disable. Not the best solution, but it works. I only disabled it on the WLC that controls the ap.

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