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Safe distance for AIR AP2802E

Novice2022
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Hello,

We're installing Cisco AIR-AP2802E access point in a quite dense area so the AP will be in ~1-1.5m away from the sitting place (basically placed on a table). This access point seems to be indoors although looks quite big so people are concerned about transmission power (and radiation).

I'd appreciate for any safety references.

Many thanks.

 

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Scott Fella
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There has been a lot of questions about this for many years and there really isn't any concern.  If you look at home wireless or the desktop Offices extend access points, they would be pretty close to where people would be sitting.  We have had many users open tickets globally and also have went up on their desk and remove the ethernet or even cover the ap with foil.  Basically we provided some data we found online and also spoke about concerns with cell phones, which they should worry about more.  What we ended up doing was have the users request for a new office and the decision to move the user to a location where there was no ap in their room or near them was up to their manager.

Your best bet is to search the internet and gather the data you need to help with your decision.

-Scott
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Arshad Safrulla
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Cisco 2802E is an AP which requires you to connect external antennas. Aesthetically I guess it won't look nice if you place it on top of a table. For these types of deployments recommendation is to use Cisco 9105AXWT where AP uses the cradle allowing the AP to be placed horizontally on a desk. 

Regarding the distance of the AP and the clients depends on the antenna you are planning to use with 2802E. It is always recommended that you hire a wireless professional who can do a RF study and propose the correct antenna models and AP placements or correct AP models if it to be placed in a table.

Haydn Andrews
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First off here some official documents regarding WIFI and Health:

https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/radiation-sources/more-radiation-sources/wi-fi

There a bunch more from other agencies and universities all basically the same thing

An AP transmit power is very very low when you actually look at it the old 50-100W light bulbs imitted more RF radiation than the AP does.

The other thing I always remind people is that they carry a mobile phone in their pocket that transmits the LTE at a higher power than the AP. Not sure if still the case but the iPhone used to have a warning inside their T&C that stated not to operate within 30cm of the body or some measurement like that.

That being said you have selected an external antenna model, so if you put a 13dB antenna pointing directly at someones head no amount of logic will help. Suggest better if it has to be desk mounted to use an internal antenna mode 

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JPavonM
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It is clear that the problem was created from not having been careful to name something dangerous like radioactivity with the same prefix used for radio technology, harmfull or not. (the same concept applies if we use microwave transmissions because people would think their body would be boiled).

Regarding radio transmissions' safety, I have been dealing with this multiple times, and the problem is that people don't worry about where they place APs or ISP routers with embedded wireless at home. They don't care about carrying smartphones on the pocket (using WiFi, BT or NFC), using baby monitors or security cameras at home. Maybe they don't even know that their microwave ovens could be leaking radio signal due to improper use of the oven's door during its lifetime. They only complaint about enterprise wireless because it is imposed. We live on an era where people's lack of knowledge on a specific matter is filled with non-scientific information from unreputable resources, and presenting scientific evidence to them is so hard to understand, that people tend to think "that's they want us to think". At the end it is best to show people common activities involving the same radio signals with greater or same impact to their safety.

Your only concern here from a technical point of view would be to place the AP on a "safe" distance from all kind of stuff that sit on a desktop such as printers, monitors and other IT equipment that could obstruct the signal and impact propagation.
Placing an AP over desktops also increase radio signal obstruction from human body, so decreasing signal range.

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