06-09-2023 09:59 PM
So my wife's employeer gave her this VoIP phone to use while WFH, I just realized that it has a USB port which I tried to connect stuff to and nothing seems to work, not even charging. While messing around (since he employeer is a cheap MF) to find a better solution for the headset she was given, I tried to connect the USB dongle for my Jabra headset, that does not seem to do anything either. Checking online I found that this CP model seem to have a BLUETOOTH OPTION?? What? so I tried messing around with the configuration and I could not find any bluetooth configation option, or anything even related (I'm a computer engineer so I trust me that the option is just missing).
So, here is where I hope to get help, I'm wondering if her employee IT dep has just straigh up blocked/removed some options (the phone options seem rather basic for a +$200 VoIP phone), wanted to straigh up reset it and see what happens, but I don't want to cause her any troubles, so I have a few very specific questions:
* Would it even be possible to disable bluetooth? And say wallpaper options (that option is there, but there are no walpapers to choose from for example, not that I care about the walpaper though)
* Does the CP-8851 comes wityh bluetooth by default? There is nothing else to be purchased? Could this be model without the bluetooth?
* What does the USB work with? Could that be blocked by admin too?
* Say I collect the networking information, could I factory reset and then just add gateway, DNS, domain details and get it working? Or does it required other configuration like VPN or such?
Any help will be VERY appreciated, the headset she is using is just a piece of cr@p...... Really need to get her something better.
PD: Attached a video with all the config options available....
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06-10-2023 07:33 AM
Would there be a chance the phone is running on an early release software that does not support BLE?
@matt steger said even a grayed out BLE option is not even present?
06-10-2023 08:32 AM
I have never bothered to look at a phone’s settings menu when the Bluetooth radio is administratively disabled in CUCM. I don’t know if it’s hidden entirely vs. being greyed out. It’s certainly plausible that an early build lacked BT support but my memory isn’t that good nine-ish years later. It’s also possible the employer ordered the non-radio SKU intended for classified environments, although that would be a weird mistake to make.
06-09-2023 10:56 PM - edited 06-09-2023 11:00 PM
@matt steger wrote:
Would it even be possible to disable bluetooth?
There are two ways to disable BLE: Admin disabled at CUCM or the phone is loaded with firmware that does not support BLE (early releases).
If the BLE option is grayed out, the admin has disabled BLE from the CUCM. If the BLE option is not even present, the phone is, most likely, loaded with early release firmware that does not support BLE.
Entry-level Cisco Headset 500 or mid-tier 730 are the choices she can use.
@matt steger wrote:
I just realized that it has a USB port which I tried to connect stuff to and nothing seems to work
I could be wrong but the USB port is meant for the exclusive use of the KEM.
@matt steger wrote:
Say I collect the networking information, could I factory reset and then just add gateway, DNS, domain details and get it working? Or does it required other configuration like VPN or such?
It will render the phone completely useless. It requires to talk to the CUCM.
The best avenue is for your spouse to talk to the CUCM admin/manager.
06-10-2023 05:41 AM
The USB port - if enabled - should work with any generic USB headset (eg Jabra, Plantronics/Poly/HP, etc.). It’s not limited to Cisco.
Agree with Leo though; the admin likely has the options disabled.
06-10-2023 05:49 AM
BTL options are not present, not even grayed out. Regarding the USB yeah, it simple does do anything so it does sound like it's disabled...
06-10-2023 06:04 AM
@matt steger wrote:
Would it be possible to upgrade CUCM? I know for a fact that they IT dep won't help any further... I don't really care if the phone stop working, she can just play dumb and say we had lightning or something.. IT dep is not the smartest either...
CUCM stands for Cisco Unified Call Manager. It is a server that manages the phone and decodes voice traffic, from analogue to IP, and back. It is an extremely expensive series of servers and requires a small army of talented people to maintain, operate, configure and troubleshoot.
If the IT dept is not the sharpest pencil in the base, then there is no hope. The worst case scenario I have singing in my head is the CUCM server is running a really old software, possibly one with known software vulnerability. Because upgrading CUCM, or even upgrading the device pack, requires skills.
06-10-2023 05:47 AM
Would it be possible to upgrade CUCM? I know for a fact that they IT dep won't help any further... I don't really care if the phone stop working, she can just play dumb and say we had lightning or something.. IT dep is not the smartest either...
PS, what does CUCM stands for?
06-10-2023 06:06 AM
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CUCM) is the server-side soft switch; it’s the brains of the phone system. It also manages/pushes phone firmware updates. IP Phones are essentially dumb terminals; all of their config is pushed down in a digitally signed XML config file and via the SIP registration. You’re stuck here without admin access to CUCM.
The last resort headset option would be the analog RJ9 connector on the back. Again, that can be disabled though (it’s on by default, FWIW).
06-10-2023 06:25 AM
06-10-2023 06:56 AM
Some of the business-oriented wireless DECT headsets support that RJ9 port. For example, Jabra Engage 65 or 75. Those headsets also support an Electronic Hookswitch accessory cable that connects to the phone AUX port and allows the headset to answer/end/hold/resume and go into standby when the phone is idle; however, this must be enabled on the phone by the admin - and it’s off by default.
06-10-2023 07:33 AM
Would there be a chance the phone is running on an early release software that does not support BLE?
@matt steger said even a grayed out BLE option is not even present?
06-10-2023 08:32 AM
I have never bothered to look at a phone’s settings menu when the Bluetooth radio is administratively disabled in CUCM. I don’t know if it’s hidden entirely vs. being greyed out. It’s certainly plausible that an early build lacked BT support but my memory isn’t that good nine-ish years later. It’s also possible the employer ordered the non-radio SKU intended for classified environments, although that would be a weird mistake to make.
06-10-2023 09:18 AM
Correct. I attached a video to this thread, where I go over the "entire" configuration... like 1 min long probably since there are not many options
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