01-29-2008 01:08 AM - edited 03-15-2019 08:28 AM
Hi,
I currently use CCM 3.3(3) running on MCS-7835H-2.4-EVV1 serving about 100 IPPhones. I would like to upgrade it but thruly am not sure to which version. It seems that 4.3 should be enough in regards to required functionalities. However, I am concerned about the future of this release. I wouldn't like to perform additional upgrade in 2 years after 4.3 becomes EOS, or so. What is the advice? Should I upgrade to 5.x or maybe to 6.x? Should I also change hardware?
01-29-2008 06:52 AM
Hi Krzystof,
It is hard to say what version to upgrade to depending on what "feature set" you are looking for. CCM 4.3 has not been announced for EoS/EoL yet so the dates will be a ways down the road. Here are the CCM 4.2 EoS/EoL to work from (so 4.3 will be somewhat later);
End-of-Life Milestones and Dates for the Cisco Unified CallManager Version 4.2
End-of-Sale Date
The last date to order the product through Cisco point-of-sale mechanisms. The product is no longer for sale after this date.
May 15, 2008
Last Ship Date:
App. SW
The last-possible ship date that can be requested of Cisco and/or its contract manufacturers. Actual ship date is dependent on lead time.
August 13, 2008
End of SW Maintenance Releases Date:
App. SW
The last date that Cisco Engineering may release any final software maintenance releases or bug fixes. After this date, Cisco Engineering will no longer develop, repair, maintain, or test the product software.
May 15, 2009
End of New Service Attachment Date:
App. SW
For equipment and software that is not covered by a service-and-support contract, this is the last date to order a new service-and-support contract or add the equipment and/or software to an existing service-and-support contract.
May 15, 2009
End of Service Contract Renewal Date:
App. SW
The last date to extend or renew a service contract for the product.
August 11, 2010
Last Date of Support:
App. SW
The last date to receive service and support for the product. After this date, all support services for the product are unavailable, and the product becomes obsolete.
May 15, 2011
End-of-Life and End-of-Sale Notices
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/prod_eol_notices_list.html
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For the CCM 5.x vs 6.x debate my vote would be to go straight to 6.x due to the features and stability.
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You will want to upgrade your Hardware as well as your model is EoL in March 2009 :(
EoS/EoL Annoucement for the Cisco MCS 7835H-2400
End-of-life announcement date
The date the document that announces the end of sale and end of life of a product is distributed to the general public.
December 16, 2003
End-of-sale date
The last date to order the product through Cisco point-of-sale mechanisms. The product is no longer for sale after this date.
March 16, 2004
Last shipment date
The last-possible ship date that can be requested of Cisco and/or its contract manufacturers. Actual ship date is dependent on lead-time.
June 16, 2004
End of software maintenance releases date
The last date that Cisco Engineering may release any final software maintenance releases or bug fixes. After this date, Cisco Engineering will no longer develop, repair, maintain, or test the product software.
March 16, 2005
[Required Milestone for Hardware] End of Routine failure analysis date
The last possible date a routine failure analysis may be performed to determine the cause of product failure or defect.
March 16, 2005
End of new service attachment date
For equipment and software that is not covered by a service-and-support contract, this is the last date to order a new service-and-support contract or add the equipment and/or software to an existing service-and-support contract.
March 16, 2005
End of service contract renewal date
The last date to extend or renew a service contract for the product. The extension or renewal period cannot extend beyond the last date of support.
December 16, 2008
Last date of support
The last date to receive service and support for the product. After this date, all support services for the product are unavailable, and the product becomes obsolete.
March 16, 2009
Hope this helps!
Rob
01-29-2008 07:50 AM
Hm, according to that announcement the only thing changed in replacement product (MCS-7835H-3.0-IPC1) is CPU (it is now 3.0GHz, instead of 2.4GHz in MCS-7835H-2.4-EVV1). No other changes. Is there any reason for upgrading HW? All new CUCMs run on old MCS :-)
01-29-2008 06:52 AM
Your servers are still supported on the latest CUCM versions:
Personally, I'd go for 6.1. You're upgrade path would be something like 3.3>4.1>5.1>6.x
or 3.3>4.1>4.2>6.x
01-29-2008 07:32 AM
Thanks all for comprehensive explanations. Regariding cascading upgrades, can you tell me how pricing and licensing is solved? I cannot find a product number for upgrading 3.3 to 6.x. Does this mean that I have to buy two upgrades 3.3 > 4.2 (CM4.2-U-K9-7835=) for 4k USD and then 4.2 > 6.x (CM6.0U4-K9-7835=) for additional 8k USD? What about licenses, can I request free licenses covering existing IPPhones or should I consider additional costs for licenses? And regarding hardware upgrade, is there any low-cost option for HW upgrade or I should rather buy new server along with CUCM 6.x (MCS7835H2-K9-CMB1) for 12k USD leaving SW upgrades behind?
01-29-2008 07:39 AM
Technically all you're doing is upgrading s/w so new hardware and licensing shouldn't be needed (but I could be wrong). Best contact your supplier (Cisco Partner) for part codes etc.
01-29-2008 09:00 AM
Hi Krzysztof,
The reference about the Hardware needing to be changed is really due to the End of Support in March 2009. Most companies don't want to run on non-supported equipment (especially for something like Voice).
The truth of the matter is that the new CCM Versions can be supported on the Hardware but when you are planning an upgrade it is a great time to look at both the Harware and Software to see if the changes can be done at the same time. You may also find that due to the complexity of the 3.3 to 6.x change that having new boxes is a real bonus.
Just my two cent$
Rob
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