08-04-2021 01:43 AM
Hi All,
I want to extend user ports, so I plan to connect switches cascade and I wonder about performance, I found different ways for binding switches theoretically but I exactly want to know chain way (cascade),
Let me give an example I have 4 switches and connected them via user port with one ethernet cable supports 1Gbit traffic also the switch has 24 1Gbit ports. When the first switch has 23 users and also each user has 1Gbit traffic want to send to the other switchs and they are in chain connection via 1Gbit user port. I think that, while the 23 users generating traffic through the other switches there will be lots of drops and blocked packets. Is it right or it will be slow and no more performace loss.
Thank you for your time.
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08-04-2021 08:21 AM
As the other posters have already noted, individual switch can vary greatly on their interior switch hardware supporting their ports and can have different resources supported "normal" edge ports vs. "uplink" ports. I.e. switch X with 48 ports and switch Y also with 48 ports can be very different in how well they can support their 48 ports. Basically, for the same number of "like" ports, if switch X is much more expensive than switch Y (from same vendor), there's usually internal hardware reasons for the increased cost (although more expensive devices also often have a larger profit margin in their pricing too).
What capacity you need depends on the nature of the hosts, and their topology. For instance, user hosts often tend to have less traffic then server hosts, but even that can vary based on the "kind" of user or server hosts. (For example, years ago I supported an engineering department [with CADD operators], that generated more traffic on our local/department LAN than the company [a fortune 100] had on their LAN backbone.)
As you noted, a "cascade" type of topology could more easily fill transit links with traffic, as traffic can "accumulate" as your transit the switches. (BTW, this type of topology also often increases latency, as there can be more switches to transit between hosts.)
From a topology viewpoint a "star" or "mesh" topology is often "better" for performance, but without knowing your traffic "needs", low-end switches, even in a "cascade" (daisy-chain) topology, might be perfectly fine, for you.
08-04-2021 02:21 AM
Switches also vary in the network speed they offer, ranging from fast ethernet, Gigabit ethernet (10/100/1000 Mbps), 10 Gigabit (10/100/1000/10000 Mbps) and even 40/100 Gbps speeds.
08-04-2021 03:05 AM
We are not sure what is the switch model here to see how this impact.
Most of the suggestion and best practice, to chain from switch to use always uplink port, that has different ASIC (than user connected ports - this is only based on informatoon and model of the switch) - some switched do offier edge port different ASIC, that only can confirm with datasheet.
if the user port shared sure it has performance issue (suggestion here use UPLINK Modules)
08-04-2021 04:28 AM
I just want to learn detail of such things, the alternative ways are using upling or stack, but I wonder about using user port for connection of switchs, just imagine that there are two switches and which have three ports and 1 gbit available and one port has used for binding each other and the cable has enough performance to transfer 1 Gbit data rate, and keep on imagine and a user use a blank port of first switch and has 1 Gbit data rate continuously, for the other switch and I wonder if one more user can use first switch to transfer any data, I think any more person cannot be used bacause of 1 Gbit continuos data. Or the port send data in an order and 2 person can be use with slow connection simultaneously.
Thank you,
Best Regards
08-04-2021 05:19 AM
Again it all depends on switch capabilites and end device capabilities. (technically yes/no)
08-04-2021 08:21 AM
As the other posters have already noted, individual switch can vary greatly on their interior switch hardware supporting their ports and can have different resources supported "normal" edge ports vs. "uplink" ports. I.e. switch X with 48 ports and switch Y also with 48 ports can be very different in how well they can support their 48 ports. Basically, for the same number of "like" ports, if switch X is much more expensive than switch Y (from same vendor), there's usually internal hardware reasons for the increased cost (although more expensive devices also often have a larger profit margin in their pricing too).
What capacity you need depends on the nature of the hosts, and their topology. For instance, user hosts often tend to have less traffic then server hosts, but even that can vary based on the "kind" of user or server hosts. (For example, years ago I supported an engineering department [with CADD operators], that generated more traffic on our local/department LAN than the company [a fortune 100] had on their LAN backbone.)
As you noted, a "cascade" type of topology could more easily fill transit links with traffic, as traffic can "accumulate" as your transit the switches. (BTW, this type of topology also often increases latency, as there can be more switches to transit between hosts.)
From a topology viewpoint a "star" or "mesh" topology is often "better" for performance, but without knowing your traffic "needs", low-end switches, even in a "cascade" (daisy-chain) topology, might be perfectly fine, for you.
08-04-2021 10:42 PM
This is my first post and it is really helpful community, also I hope it will heplful who looks for such things, Thank you ALL, for your consideration and time.
Best Regards
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