10-31-2011 12:14 PM - edited 03-04-2019 02:06 PM
Hello Guys,
Looking for information on the benefits (Pros / Cons ) of moving from GRE Over IPSEC to DMVPN. In Total we got 30 Remote sites connecting to a single VPN Server in HQ. We plan to have Dual VPN Server terminating on Different ISP to cover failover and redundancy for Internet and VPN Server Hardware.
thanks
Vishal
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10-31-2011 08:33 PM
Just to add to Joseph post,
DMVPN is a very useful, flexible and scaleable tunneling technology where you can build a dmvpn tunneling cloud from simple hub and spoke topology to a multi tier complex hup and spokes topologies and it can be used with IPSec encryption for security and confidentiality but IPSec is optional but highly recommended
Ok ba k to the usage of this technology bellow are some examples where you can use it
- back up to the private WAN to be used over Internet for example
- if a customer has only Internet and with hub and many spokes and the spokes obtain their ip from the ISP not static then with dmvpn each spoke will register with the hub and the hub the will know about the spoke ip to be used as next hope for routing
-curry multi cast and routing traffic
- if a customer use it as main or back up method and they have VoIP dmvpn the best option here as with VoIP you will need direct RTP traffic between endpoints and this will be done by using the dmvpn spoke to spoke or branch to branch direct traffic
- if a customer have WAN network and they want to secure the ip communicatio. Over the WAN then DMVPN with IPSec encryption can be used and on top of it the routing can be run
Hope this help
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10-31-2011 04:33 PM
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Three benefits of DMVPN:
10-31-2011 08:33 PM
Just to add to Joseph post,
DMVPN is a very useful, flexible and scaleable tunneling technology where you can build a dmvpn tunneling cloud from simple hub and spoke topology to a multi tier complex hup and spokes topologies and it can be used with IPSec encryption for security and confidentiality but IPSec is optional but highly recommended
Ok ba k to the usage of this technology bellow are some examples where you can use it
- back up to the private WAN to be used over Internet for example
- if a customer has only Internet and with hub and many spokes and the spokes obtain their ip from the ISP not static then with dmvpn each spoke will register with the hub and the hub the will know about the spoke ip to be used as next hope for routing
-curry multi cast and routing traffic
- if a customer use it as main or back up method and they have VoIP dmvpn the best option here as with VoIP you will need direct RTP traffic between endpoints and this will be done by using the dmvpn spoke to spoke or branch to branch direct traffic
- if a customer have WAN network and they want to secure the ip communicatio. Over the WAN then DMVPN with IPSec encryption can be used and on top of it the routing can be run
Hope this help
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10-31-2011 10:10 PM
Thanks for replying. In DMVPN can we have some VPN tunnel with IPSEC and some without IPSEC
thanks
Vishal
10-31-2011 10:16 PM
with DMVPN you use GRE tunnels of type multipoint
you can use a hub with multi GRN tunnels, IPs where spokes can register to
or you might have dual hubs with DMVP tunnels interface
one with IPsec enabled and the other one without
from the spoke point of view you can have two tunnels each one can register to differnt hub/tunnel interface
in this way you will have one secure and the other one not secure/without IPsec
hope this help
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10-31-2011 10:24 PM
Thanks for quick response.
In scenario where there is One Hub, can I have DMVPN and regular IPSEC VPN on the same box.
thanks
Vishal
10-31-2011 10:46 PM
yes if you have multiple interface to the internet for example with multiple IPs
or you might use some complicated apraochs by using VRFs
you might also try is using policy based routing to send certain traffic over the DMVPN tunnel interface and the other over the normal
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11-01-2011 03:34 AM
Many Many Thanks Marwanshawi
I got another complex scenario for VPN, will post shotly.
thanks
Vishal
11-01-2011 09:20 AM
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- if a customer use it as main or back up method and they have VoIP dmvpn the best option here as with VoIP you will need direct RTP traffic between endpoints and this will be done by using the dmvpn spoke to spoke or branch to branch direct traffic
For something like VoIP, you would need to use DMVPN with great care. First, if you allow spoke-to-spoke usage, it's difficult to manage bandwidth to guarantee VoIP service requirements. Second, DMVPN is a bit inefficient building spoke-to-spoke path, which might also impact VoIP.
11-01-2011 11:35 PM
you right Joseph but in a case where you have Internet as backup to the WAN or the only communications is over the Internet then DMVPN is much better than traditional lan2lan IPsec VPN especially where you have hub and spoke or many remote sites
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