Can you check whether I

Soon Kwan Kwon · ‎08-25-2016

Hi all,

I am network engineer in Korea.

I surprised that CISCO switch can be a WLC... only an hour ago.

My customer sent me a estimate sheet.

In the sheet, there are 3 name.

Cisco WS-C3650-48PS-L
Cisco AIR-AP1852I-H-K9
L-LIC-CT3650-UPG

After that, I searched about this, because I'm wondering if 3650 switch can be WLC.

In the result, I found 3650 can be WLC.

But I want to check you guys whether it's real.

The question is

1. If I buy L-LIC-CT3650-UPG, can WS-C3650-48PS-L be really WLC?

AND,

In the datasheet in CISCO web site, there is sentence "IP Base"

2. In this point, maybe should I buy WS-C3650-48PS-S , not L ?

...cisco is really difficult vendor ㅠ_ㅠ

Please advise to me guys.

Regards,

SK.

Pawan Raut · ‎08-25-2016

Yes we can configure switch as WLC. Please see below configuration guide.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3650/software/release/3se/mobility/configuration_guide/b_mobility_3se_3650_cg/b_mobility_3se_3650_cg_chapter_01001.html

Please rate for useful post.

Regards,

Pawan (CCIE 52104)

Soon Kwan Kwon · ‎08-25-2016

Yes, of course .

I rated 5.

But I want to know number 2 question.

Should I buy S or L? (Do you know ...it?..) if so, please teach me,

Regards,

-SK

Pawan Raut · ‎08-25-2016

I would suggest IP base not LAN base as you aredoing extend operation (WLC) other than noramal Layer 2 switching on Cisco 3650

johnlloyd_13 · ‎08-25-2016

hi,

go for WS-C3650-48PS-S since it's IP base and capable of converged/CAPWAP wireless architecture.

WS-C3650-48PS-S

Standalone with Optional Stacking 48 10/100/1000 Ethernet PoE+ and 4x1G Uplink ports, with 640WAC power supply, 1 RU, IP Base feature set

the -L is LAN base and only supports MA (mobility agent).

see helpful link:

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-3650-series-switches/datasheet-c78-729449.html

● Mobility controller (MC): In this mode, the Cisco Catalyst 3650 switch can perform all the mobility agent tasks in addition to mobility coordination, radio resource management (RRM), and Cisco CleanAir^® coordination within a mobility subdomain. The mobility controller mode can be enabled on the switch CLI. IP Base license level is required when the Cisco Catalyst 3650 switch is acting as the mobility controller. A centrally located Cisco 5508 Wireless LAN Controller (WLC 5508), Cisco Wireless Services Module 2 (WiSM2) (when running AireOS Version 7.3), and Wireless LAN Controller 5760 can also perform this role for larger deployments.

With mobility agents located in the wiring closets providing 40 Gbps of wireless per switch (n x 40 Gbps for a stack of n switches) and mobility controllers managing some of the central wireless functions, the converged access-based wireless deployment provides best-in-class scalability for wireless and significantly improved wireless throughput.

Soon Kwan Kwon · ‎08-26-2016

Excellent !

but I want to know another question. (it was said by Leo)

LIC-CTIOS-1A is 1 AP adder license. [I extract from cisco datasheet]

The question I want to is

I'll give you a situation(Example)

1. I'll buy

Cisco WS-C3650-48PS-L   (1EA)
Cisco AIR-AP1852I-H-K9    (4EA)
L-LIC-CT3650-UPG              (1EA)

2. Should I buy LIC-CTIOS-1A x 4ea because I'll use 4 AP? <--- I really want to know question.

3. After that, everything is going well?

Thank you!

jogilsang · ‎08-26-2016

Hi :) i'm fellow worker with Soon Kwan Kwon

i read your opnions and power on WS-C3650-48PS console-mode.

because, i want check it.

but, i see bottom contents in my switch-settings

i don't understand. because, i'm not yet buy L-LIC-CT3650-UPG for WLC

please check it.

1)

Switch# show license right-to-use
Slot# License name Type Count Period left
----------------------------------------------------------
1 ipbase permanent N/A Lifetime

License Level on Reboot: ipbase

2)

switch# show run

...

...

ap group default-group
end

3)

Switch(config)#wireless mobility ?
controller Configures mobility controller settings
dscp Configures the Mobility inter controller DSCP value
dtls Configure dtls paramaters for all Mobility Connections
group Configures the Mobility group parameters
load-balance Configure mobility load-balance status
multicast Configures the Multicast Mode for mobility messages
oracle Configures mobility oracle settings

Switch(config)#wireless mobility controller ?
ip no description
peer-group Configures mobility peer groups

Switch(config)#wireless mobility controller ip ?
A.B.C.D IP address of mobility controller

Question

1. but, is it true? can i input this commands in situation that not buyed L-LIC-CT3650-UPG ?

2. is it basic function commands in WS-C3650-48PS ?

virtually, should i not buy L-LIC-CT3650-UPG ?

:) sorry. so lenghy!!

Leo Laohoo · ‎08-25-2016

L-LIC-CT3650-UPG

You need this FIRST and then a single "LIC-CTIOS-1A" for every AP the 3650 is to support. So if you want 20 APs, then you'll need to purchase 20 x LIC-CTIOS-1A.

In this point, maybe should I buy WS-C3650-48PS-S ?

If I remembered correctly, IP Base is needed.

1850 requires 21.0w PoE. WS-C3650-48PS has only 390w of PoE budget. This means up to 18 APs can be connected to a single switch.

One thing to consider is this: HOW MANY APs are going to be connected to this switch? The reason why I'm asking is the PoE budget of this model.

Soon Kwan Kwon · ‎08-25-2016

Thank you Leo.

I have other questions.

1. Should I buy unconditionally "LIC-CTIOS-1A" to connect AP and switch(3650)?

2. Then... how many APs on 3650 with LIC-CT3650-UPG by default (if I didn't buy CTIOS-1A license)

---

3. (Buying LIC-CTIOS-1A) Is it necessary element in order to use for controller?

4.

If I remembered correctly, IP Base is needed.

It means that I should buy IP Base(S), not L

Thank you very much and I hope your reply if possible.

Regards,

- SK

Leo Laohoo · ‎08-25-2016

1. Should I buy unconditionally "LIC-CTIOS-1A" to connect AP and switch(3650)?

If you have access to CCW, you won't be able to enter LIC-CTIOS-1A unless you enter "L-LIC-CT3650-UPG" first. Depends on how many APs you want (up to 50 APs).

Soon Kwan Kwon · ‎08-26-2016

Can you check whether I understand your reply correctly?

--------------------------

LIC-CTIOS-1A is 1 AP adder license. [I extracted from cisco datasheet]

The question I want to is

I'll give you a situation(Example)

1. I'll buy

Cisco WS-C3650-48PS-L   (1EA)
Cisco AIR-AP1852I-H-K9    (4EA)
L-LIC-CT3650-UPG              (1EA)

2. Should I buy LIC-CTIOS-1A x 4ea because I'll use 4 AP? <--- I really want to know question.

3. After that, everything is going well?

Thank you!

Leo Laohoo · ‎08-26-2016

Ok. I've made a mistake.

Do you have access to CCW (Cisco Commerce & Workplace)? If you don't, talk to your Cisco AM/SE because it's a beautiful tool to generate a bill of material.

Once you get there, you put in the switch (WS-C3560-48PS-L).

Now, once you've done this, click the "+" symbol and you can add what is necessary, including the license, LIC-CTIOS-1A (no need to enter L-LIC-CT3560-UPG), and specify how many adder license you require.

If you go through this method, the switch gets delivered with the correct amount of AP adder license already installed otherwise the adder license will come in as an electronic copy and you'll need to install them yourself.

johnlloyd_13 · ‎08-25-2016

hi,

yes, a cisco 3650 can be setup as WLC and it's actually called a wireless controller module (WCM).

kindly see helpful link:

http://ccnawirelesswannabe.blogspot.com/2016/08/configuring-cisco-36503850-wireless.html

Soon Kwan Kwon · ‎08-25-2016

Thank you johnlloyd.

If I buy them, I'll use this link ^^

Regards,

jkilleda · ‎04-19-2018

Hello Soon kwan,

Is it real story? ("Switch can be WLC?")
Yes , a switch can act as WLC . The configuration is given below

Switch3650(config)#wlan OPEN 19 OPEN.

You can refer the link .
https://mrncciew.com/2013/12/04/wlan-config-in-3850-part-1/