10-01-2021 09:52 AM
this is a home environment
unfortunately at my location i cant get wired internet so i have to use LTE
if one program is producing heavy internet traffic
mostly if some of my security cams detects motion and uploads to the cloud or P2P downloads
all other traffic is more or less impossible not even ping works any longer
meaning i getting a ping of 3500ms or higher instead of 30ms ish and drops
the traffic is originating from different devices vms pc ... which are connected to a catalyst 2960x switch
connection to the internet is over a isr 1111 with a built-in lte modem
i am not sure but if i understand QOS right then i cant use it because i dont know my connection speed
and cant reserve bandwidth
depending on the weather time of the day gods will and whats not
its anywhere between 0.1-30mbps up / 1-100mbps down (average 5/10updown)
is there any way to set things up in a way that i have the best connection from my workstation
so even if my camera is uploading to the cloud and an other pc is downloading something
if i want to ping something or watch a video on my dedicated workstation prioritize that traffic
also the problem seems to by more prevalent when my cameras uploads which is done by
satbelbits if i am not mistaking they use some high priority qos settings software side
cheers rick
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10-03-2021 02:39 AM
i got it to work!
i mark the packets on the switch
mls qos policy-map policy1 class class-default set ip dscp af33 <-- just some value for now interface GigabitEthernet1/0/3 <--- device to get full speed internet switchport access vlan 7 service-policy input policy1
class-map match-all LTE_Priority_Traffic match access-group 101 ! policy-map LTE_Child class LTE_Priority_Traffic priority 10240 class class-default fair-queue policy-map LTE_Parent class class-default shape average 10240000 service-policy LTE_Child interface Cellular0/2/0 ip address negotiated ip nat outside load-interval 30 dialer in-band dialer watch-group 1 pulse-time 1 service-policy output LTE_Parent ip virtual-reassembly ip virtual-reassembly-out ip access-list extended 101 permit ip any any dscp af33 <-- same value as on switch
with this settings other devices can upload as they wish if the WORKSTATION is also starting an upload the
others are throttled to 0
and its just if the workstation is taking heavy use of the connection
how fast and well this works i will need to see during the next days
10-01-2021 11:05 AM
Hello,
you could implement QoS on your cellular interface. In the example below, your workstation has IP address 192.168.1.11, and will be guaranteed 10MB no matter what. The rest of the traffic is shaped to 200MB in this example, you can change this value to whatever your LTE has.
access-list 101 permit ip host 192.168.1.11 any
!
class-map CLASS_1
match access-group 101
!
policy-map CHILD_SHAPER
class CLASS_1
priority 10240
class class-default
fair-queue
!
policy-map PARENT_SHAPER
class class-default
shape average 20480000
service-policy CHILD_SHAPER
!
interface Cellular0
service-policy output PARENT_SHAPER
10-01-2021 12:42 PM
thats where i am not sure i understand the indications of it
what does this "guaranteed 10MB no matter what" means
lets assume for the sake of argument
my wan connection switches for some magic reason between 100mb / 1000mb speed randomly all few minutes
if its 1000 al should be fine (by side that i would not use the full available bandwidth unless the workstation)
the camera gets 200mb (at max)
and the workstation is free to use what evert it will (up to the maximum the connection can provide)
but what if its 100?
the camera is allowed to used 200mb
but the interface can handle not more then 100
does my workstation still some how gets its guaranteed 10mb?
my cellular is like that best case 100mb worst 1mb
i cant throttle all traffic to 0.5mb so even in the worst scenario
my workstation would still get the other 0.5mb
because then my camera upload would never catchup
10-01-2021 02:04 PM
Hello,
with the QoS applied, the workstation will get 10MB no matter what.
10-02-2021 02:30 AM
i am having some difficulties implementing this
the rule dont seems to match anything
i am certain the ip is the right one
the set up seams to be ok in general because if i put
ip access-list extended 101
permit ip any any
then is see packets on LTE_Priority_Traffic
could it be because the interface is nat ed? i also tried to put in the external ip in the access list for testing
tried to put in any 10.0.0.11 vs 10.0.0.11 any
but there are no packets except by any any settings
ip nat translation timeout 300 ip nat translation tcp-timeout 300 ip nat translation udp-timeout 300 ip nat translation finrst-timeout 60 ip nat translation syn-timeout 60 ip nat translation dns-timeout 60 ip nat translation icmp-timeout 60 ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.23 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.23 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.6 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static udp 10.0.0.11 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static udp 10.0.0.11 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static udp 10.0.0.11 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static udp 10.0.0.10 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static udp 10.0.0.10 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static udp 10.0.0.10 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.200.200 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.123 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.123 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.124 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.1.10 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.10 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.10 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.124 xx interface Cellular0/2/0 xx ip nat inside source list NAT interface Cellular0/2/0 overload ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Cellular0/2/0 ip access-list extended 101 permit ip host 10.0.0.11 any ip access-list extended NAT
permit ip 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 172.16.1.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 172.16.2.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255 any
permit ip 172.16.3.0 0.0.0.255 any
controller Cellular 0/2/0 no lte gps enable lte modem link-recovery rssi onset-threshold -110 lte modem link-recovery monitor-timer 20 lte modem link-recovery wait-timer 10 lte modem link-recovery debounce-count 6 ! ! vlan internal allocation policy ascending ! ! class-map match-all LTE_Priority_Traffic match access-group 101 ! policy-map LTE_Child class LTE_Priority_Traffic priority 10240 class class-default fair-queue policy-map LTE_Parent class class-default shape average 20480000 service-policy LTE_Child interface Cellular0/2/0 description LTE ip ddns update hostname dynu.com ip ddns update dynu ip address negotiated ip nbar protocol-discovery ipv4 ip nat outside load-interval 30 history BPS all dialer in-band dialer watch-group 1 pulse-time 1 service-policy output LTE_Parent ip virtual-reassembly ip virtual-reassembly-out
interface GigabitEthernet0/1/1
description Trunk 1/0/1
switchport trunk allowed vlan 20,160-168
switchport mode trunk
switchport port-security maximum 100
switchport port-security violation restrict
switchport port-security
interface GigabitEthernet0/1/2 description V7 Route switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 25 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface Vlan7 description Vlan7 ip flow monitor MyFlow_monitor input ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 ip nbar protocol-discovery ipv4 ip nat inside this is the SWTITCH -------------------------
interface GigabitEthernet1/0/1
description Trunk 0/1/1
switchport trunk allowed vlan 20,160-168
switchport mode trunk
switchport port-security maximum 100
switchport port-security violation restrict
switchport port-security
interface GigabitEthernet1/0/2 description V7 Route switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 9 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface GigabitEthernet1/0/3 description WORKSTATION FULL SPEED switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 9 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security
interface GigabitEthernet1/0/5
description 10.0.0.6 TRAFFIC TO BE THROTLED
switchport access vlan 7
switchport mode access
switchport port-security maximum 9
switchport port-security violation restrict
switchport port-security
interface Vlan7
description Vlan7
ip flow monitor MyFlow_monitor input
ip address 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
do sh policy-map int Cellular0/2/0 Service-policy output: LTE_Parent Class-map: class-default (match-any) 1319309 packets, 1121981774 bytes 30 second offered rate 1000 bps, drop rate 0000 bps Match: any Queueing queue limit 85 packets (queue depth/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/39991/0 (pkts output/bytes output) 1279318/1065046164 shape (average) cir 20480000, bc 81920, be 81920 target shape rate 20480000 Service-policy : LTE_Child queue stats for all priority classes: Queueing queue limit 512 packets (queue depth/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/0/0 (pkts output/bytes output) 0/0 Class-map: LTE_Priority_Traffic (match-all) 0 packets, 0 bytes 30 second offered rate 0000 bps, drop rate 0000 bps Match: access-group 101 Priority: 10240 kbps, burst bytes 256000, b/w exceed drops: 0 Class-map: class-default (match-any) 1316930 packets, 1118593675 bytes 30 second offered rate 1000 bps, drop rate 0000 bps Match: any Queueing queue limit 85 packets (queue depth/total drops/no-buffer drops/flowdrops) 0/39991/0/39991 (pkts output/bytes output) 1279318/1065046164 Fair-queue: per-flow queue limit 21 packets
10-02-2021 05:25 AM
Hello,
in your config, the Vlan 7 interface appears twice, once with IP address 10.0.0.1, then again with IP address 10.0.0.2, is that a typo ?
10-02-2021 05:37 AM
no
one is the router 10.0.0.1 the other the switch 10.0.0.2
in case the switch setting are of any relevance
router
interface GigabitEthernet0/1/1 description Trunk 1/0/1 switchport trunk allowed vlan 20,160-168 switchport mode trunk switchport port-security maximum 100 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface GigabitEthernet0/1/2 description V7 Route switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 25 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface Vlan7 description Vlan7 ip flow monitor MyFlow_monitor input ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 ip nbar protocol-discovery ipv4 ip nat inside
switch
interface GigabitEthernet1/0/1 description Trunk 0/1/1 switchport trunk allowed vlan 20,160-168 switchport mode trunk switchport port-security maximum 100 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface GigabitEthernet1/0/2 description V7 Route switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 9 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface GigabitEthernet1/0/3 description 10.0.0.11 WORKSTATION FULL SPEED switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 9 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface GigabitEthernet1/0/5 description 10.0.0.6 TRAFFIC TO BE THROTLED switchport access vlan 7 switchport mode access switchport port-security maximum 9 switchport port-security violation restrict switchport port-security interface Vlan7 description Vlan7 ip flow monitor MyFlow_monitor input ip address 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
10-02-2021 05:41 AM
Hello,
understood. Does your host have Internet connectivity at all with your current config ?
10-02-2021 05:54 AM
yes
if i do an iperf3 upload on both (10.0.0.11 / 10.0.0.6) the traffic is evenly spread
so no throttling at all
but yes internet works
where by i just turned it of (the shaping settings) because i had some crazy glitches in on of my programs on (10.0.0.11)
like packets would have been dropped whit out the program recognizing it or just receiving incomplete communication
but acting like all would be fine (no communications error or time out ect..) just from a human perspective something was of
10-02-2021 06:05 AM
Hello,
the flow monitor might be the problem...can you try and disable that ?
10-02-2021 06:31 AM
removed it on both the router and switch
not the actual setup but its not attached to any interface
interface Cellular0/2/0 description LTE ip ddns update hostname dynu.com ip ddns update dynu ip address negotiated ip nat outside load-interval 30 history BPS all dialer in-band dialer watch-group 1 pulse-time 1 service-policy output LTE_Parent no ip virtual-reassembly no ip virtual-reassembly-out
but traffic is still evenly distributed between the hosts
and a sh policy-map interf still dont shows any packet on the LTE_Priority_Traffic
so some how the
ip access-list extended 101 permit ip host 10.0.0.11 any
is wrong or not working for some reason (the ip 10.0.0.11 is 100% the correct one) is NAT not mixing things up some how?
i just tried it again with any any and then its instantly shows packets
this produces packets in the show command but obviously that make so no sense
as so all traffic is unshaped
ip access-list extended 101 permit ip any any
10-02-2021 06:47 AM
i just trying to attach other access lists to
class-map match-all LTE_Priority_Traffic
match access-group 101
like
match access-group LogIn
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
but i cant it shows me an error like the access-list wouldn't exist
but it does
ip access-list standard LogIn permit 10.0.0.10 permit 10.0.0.11 permit 10.0.0.12 permit 10.0.0.6
or (extended vs standard)
ip access-list extended Cowrie permit tcp any any established permit tcp 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.255 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255 eq 22 deny ip 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 deny ip 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 deny ip 172.16.0.0 0.0.255.255 192.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 permit ip any any
match access-group Cowrie
wont work either
but it lets me attach any numbered X
even if they dont exist
c1111(config-cmap)# match access-group 1
c1111(config-cmap)# match access-group 2
c1111(config-cmap)# match access-group 3
c1111(config-cmap)# match access-group 4
all fine??!
non of them exists!
10-02-2021 10:18 AM
Hello,
going through the QoS guide, I found the following restriction:
--> Queuing policy in egress direction does not support match access-group classification.
Try and apply the service policy inbound.
10-02-2021 02:50 PM
What you've described creates several, generally, "impossible" issues.
You describe both your "up" and "down" bandwidths as variable. Generally, QoS manages congestion at bottlenecks. If we don't know the bandwidth we have, i.e. there's no indication to us there's congestion, we cannot manage it via QoS.
There's one exception (of which I'm aware), Cisco has a dynamic shaper that works with some of their DMVPN tunnels, Adaptive QoS, but that doesn't help us here.
W/o that feature we can shape for the "usual" expected "up" bandwidth (which you note as 5 Mbps). Two possible issues, doing that though. First, if there's actually more bandwidth that's available, your traffic will not take advantage of it. Second, if there's less actual bandwidth, your QoS will not manage the congestion the way we want.
Note: I'm not current on ISR 1K QoS features. However, assuming it supports the usual QoS MQC, some variations of what @Georg Pauwen already supported might work for you.
First, possibly something like:
policy-map up1
class class-default
shape average 5000000 !set value to correspond with bandwidth that's always available
In the past, I believe I noted shapers sometimes used FQ, but also recall noticing later shapers no longer did.
If so, on your ISR, you'll need a policy closer to what Georg described.
policy-map up2parent
class class-default
shape average 5000000
service-policy up2child
policy-map up2child
class class-default
fair-queue
FQ, in the above, might be sufficient, but if you find you actually need to further prioritize some particular traffic, what Georg described, or a variation of it, could be used.
class-map special match-any !or -all
match . . .
policy-map up3parent
class class-default
shape average 5000000
service-policy up2child
policy-map up3child
class special
fair-queue
bandwidth percent 90 !adjust percentage values as desired - they should add to 100
class class-default
fair-queue
bandwidth percent 10 !adjust percentage values as desired - they should add to 100
One difference from what Georg suggested, I recommend to only use "priority" for real-time traffic, like VoIP. The bandwidth command doesn't "cap" that class's bandwidth, and if you set percentages to 99:1, you'll get similar priority for your special class as if you used the priority command.
Managing "down" bandwidth, effectively, is quite difficult. From what you've described, suspect if you manage your "up" bandwidth, you may resolve you issue.
10-02-2021 08:18 PM
i looked in to this several times over the past (every time the situation stressed me enough to try to solve it some how)
and yes i came to the same conclusion as @Joseph W. Doherty that i need to know my bandwidth which i dont
@Georg Pauwen made me some hope that it will regardless work
i can set an upload limit on the program in question whit a simple click although its still somehow manages to make
any other communication some what sluggish even if i throttle it fare below the current capacity
unfortunately my bandwidth is so low that i cant spare any to waste by setting a really low limit some where
in the in direction i not even can apply it to the interface probably a limitation of the LTE standard
i will read a round although it dont looks like but maybe there is a solution if so i let you know
thank you both for all your time and effort
cheers rick
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