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SG200 and Catalyst 3650 Etherchannel

amantsios
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Hello,

recently we bought 2 SG200 to expand our network to Gigabit.We own 1 Catalyst 3650.

We tryed to Etherchannel between the Catalyst and one SG200 but with no luck.

At Catalyst i created the port channel

interface Port-channel1

switchport mode access

and put 4 ports on it

interface GigabitEthernet0/45

switchport mode access

channel-group 1 mode on

!

interface GigabitEthernet0/46

switchport mode access

channel-group 1 mode on

!

interface GigabitEthernet0/47

switchport mode access

channel-group 1 mode on

!

interface GigabitEthernet0/48

switchport mode access

channel-group 1 mode on

when i do show interface port-channel 1 i get that

Port-channel1 is up, line protocol is up (connected)

  Hardware is EtherChannel, address is 001a.a24d.00ae (bia 001a.a24d.00ae)

  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 4000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,

     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255

  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set

  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is auto, media type is unknown

  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported

  Members in this channel: Gi0/45 Gi0/46 Gi0/47 Gi0/48

  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00

  Last input 00:00:16, output 00:00:00, output hang never

  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never

  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0

  Queueing strategy: fifo

  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)

  5 minute input rate 988000 bits/sec, 166 packets/sec

  5 minute output rate 1943000 bits/sec, 224 packets/sec

     3283827412 packets input, 3257328668 bytes, 0 no buffer

     Received 34678609 broadcasts (0 multicast)

     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles

     10 input errors, 10 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored

     0 watchdog, 8423441 multicast, 0 pause input

     0 input packets with dribble condition detected

     1976995515 packets output, 241528325 bytes, 0 underruns

     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 7 interface resets

     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred

     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output

     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

I can see that the port-channel is 4Gbit but into the SG200 web interface the Link stays at 1Gbit

I also giving you 2 screenshots from the sg200.
Am i doing something wrong?

Do you have any suggestions?

Is able sg200 to create etherchannel with the Catalyst?

Thanks in Advanced

Alex

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David Hornstein
Level 7
Level 7

Hi Alex,

I used a 3560 and a SF300-48 in my test.  The 200 series software seems basically a subset of the 300 series switches software, so I am confident that the behaviour is just about identical.  I didn't have the luxury of Gig ports only 100Mbit/sec ports to play with.  But the indications should have been the same.  I link aggregated fe23 and FE24 on my 3560  and ports 24 and 48 on my SF300-48P

interface FastEthernet0/23

channel-group 1 mode active

interface FastEthernet0/24

channel-group 1 mode active

On my 3560 I saw the following;


3560#show lacp nei

Flags:  S - Device is requesting Slow LACPDUs

        F - Device is requesting Fast LACPDUs

        A - Device is in Active mode       P - Device is in Passive mode


Channel group 1 neighbors


Partner's information:


                  LACP port                        Admin  Oper   Port    Port

Port      Flags   Priority  Dev ID          Age    key    Key    Number  State

Fa0/23    SA      1         0025.84e5.51ad   4s    0x0    0x3E8  0x18    0x3D

Fa0/24    SA      1         0025.84e5.51ad   4s    0x0    0x3E8  0x30    0x3D

3560#



3560# show interface port-channel 1

Port-channel1 is up, line protocol is up (connected)

  Hardware is EtherChannel, address is 0023.347f.6019 (bia 0023.347f.6019)

  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 200000 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,

     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255

  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set

  Keepalive set (10 sec)

  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, link type is auto, media type is unknown

  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported

  Members in this channel: Fa0/23 Fa0/24

  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00

  Last input 00:00:01, output 00:24:23, output hang never

  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never

  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0

  Queueing strategy: fifo

  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)

  5 minute input rate 1000 bits/sec, 2 packets/sec

  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec

     5960 packets input, 814834 bytes, 0 no buffer

     Received 3542 broadcasts (2568 multicasts)

     96 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles

     96 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored

     0 watchdog, 2569 multicast, 0 pause input

     0 input packets with dribble condition detected

     3801 packets output, 1938910 bytes, 0 underruns

     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets

     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred

     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output

     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

3560#

I think we are looking at two indications, the BW 200000 Kbit as seen above does show aggregated Bandwidth, but my SF300 is showing in the screen capture below Operational Port Speed.  You will also note That the 3560 also shows Full-duplex, 100Mb/s as a indication  of the link speeds of the individual ports, as all ports in a LAG should be at the same speeds.

On my SF300 -48P I noticed  the following;

I tested  link redundancy between switches and it worked like a charm, I really couldn't 'fill' the lag to test load balancing..

But it sorta doesn't just make a big pipe, like what I think you are indicating ,

It works the following way; the following text was taken from the SG300 admin guide;

Traffic forwarded to a LAG is load-balanced across the active member ports, thus achieving an effective bandwidth close to the aggregate bandwidth of all the active member ports of the LAG.

Traffic load balancing over the active member ports of a LAG is managed by a hash-based distribution function that distributes Unicast traffic based on Layer 2 or Layer 3 packet header information. Multicast packets behave in the same way as Unicast packets.



The switch support two modes of load balancing:

  • By MAC Addressesā€”Based on the destination and source MAC addresses of all packets.


  • By IP and MAC Addressesā€”Based on the destination and source IP addresses for IP packets, and destination and source MAC addresses for non-IP packets.

In my case i could tell the hashing algorithm for LAG was using destination and source MAC addresses to load balance across my two active links.

I sorta agree, I would like to see 200Mbits  on a two port LAG not 100Mbits as a indication, but depending on the number of Layer 2 hosts on the switch network traffic balancing may not be too even over the LAG.  One port may get much more traffic compared to another port.

The more hosts i have on either side of the LAGed switches the more even will be the distribution of packets over my 100M/bit links.

LAG works, i think it is working for you.

I will pass reference to this posting to the  Product Engineers for their comment and any  feedback  as I agree there seems to be a inconsistancy  in the reporting

regards Dave

amantsios
Level 1
Level 1

Hello,

thank you very much for your answer.

First of all on 3560 the #sh lacp nei doesn't show anything at all.

I don't know if this is a problem.

Also the LAG is not working because i made speedtest from gigabit computers to gigabit servers and the total bandwidth was not more than 1Gbit.

So i assume that the LAG is not working for me.

Please have a look at this one also

https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3353835#3353835

Thanks in advanced

Alex

Hi Alex,

Delete the LAG on my SG200 switch, create it again, this time ticking LACP option  when you add the ports to the port-channel.

Think you should place a call with the Small Business Support Center. But I hope the hashing algorithms within the switches that are using destination and source MAC addresses are not skewing your results.

Here is SBSC  contact details, refer them to this posting;

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/support/tsd_cisco_small_business_support_center_contacts.html

regards dave