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2960x stack deployment Questions

Jason Jackal
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Folks:

I am reading through the following document

 

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-2960-x-series-switches/white_paper_c11-728327.pdf
 

preparing to deploy a few 2960x switch stacks. Some of my stacks will be 4 units, and few of my stacks will max-out at 8 units.

 

Currently – due to simplicity and costs – I am looking at the ‘interwoven’ stack-cable method (page 7). From my understanding, the latter will provide: redundancy and full-bandwidth, while only using 0.5 meter cables. Has anyone deployed this method in production?

 

In addition, I am a little confused as to the placement of my uplink etherchannel connections? On (page 20) it says to place the uplink connections on switches that are NOT directly connected on FlexStack links. This relates to only four member units; however, does it make sense to apply the same concepts to switchstacks that are 4<?

 

Any other pointers, additional information and creative criticism is welcomed.

 

Thank you

JJ

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Joseph W. Doherty
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Don't have any first hand experience, but it shouldn't make any real difference concerning performance or redundancy.

(NB: The method can also can be used with longer cables when "stacking" TOR across multiple cabinets.)

To your last question, perhaps.  What's being done, for a stack of 4, is to insure if a stack member with one of the (two) uplinks fails, the remaining stack member, with uplink, is physically the center switch.  This avoids the need for traffic to transit from one end of the stack to another to get to/from the uplink.

If there are more that 4 switches, it probably makes sense to keep members with two uplinks as far apart as possible, again to avoid needless transit to the remaining uplink switch.

Personally, though, when you consider normal traffic flow, I wonder if it really makes enough of a difference to concern ourselves.

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Reza Sharifi
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Hi,

Not sure about your first question, but as for the second one, if you have stack of 4 switches, the best design is to have one link from each switch to the distro or core in one portchannel. see Figure-1-1

 

HTH

Joseph W. Doherty
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Don't have any first hand experience, but it shouldn't make any real difference concerning performance or redundancy.

(NB: The method can also can be used with longer cables when "stacking" TOR across multiple cabinets.)

To your last question, perhaps.  What's being done, for a stack of 4, is to insure if a stack member with one of the (two) uplinks fails, the remaining stack member, with uplink, is physically the center switch.  This avoids the need for traffic to transit from one end of the stack to another to get to/from the uplink.

If there are more that 4 switches, it probably makes sense to keep members with two uplinks as far apart as possible, again to avoid needless transit to the remaining uplink switch.

Personally, though, when you consider normal traffic flow, I wonder if it really makes enough of a difference to concern ourselves.

Jason Jackal
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Sorry for such a late follow up; however, after working with the stacks I have determined it has do with switch hops along the stacking cables.

In a 4 unit stack - having uplinks on switch 1 and switch 3 enables only 1 hop to uplinked switches. Due to the latter, if only two-uplinks are used - a 4-unit stack is the most effective when looking at the paths to uplinks.

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