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IP unreachables ?

tedauction
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Hello, I am considering using the command 'no ip unreachables' on my layer 3 interfaces to improve security. However then I would be unable to get traceroute information from those interfaces which I find very useful.

I was wondering what do most network engineers choose i.e. the extra security of using 'no ip unreachables' or the convenient functionality of traceroute ?

 

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Hello,

 

I think disabling ip unreachables is somewhat obsolete; it used to be disabled mainly to reduce CPU usage, but in present devices, it isn't really an issue anymore. The most important negative effect of disabling ip unreachables is that it breaks path MTU discovery.

 

The link below has a pretty good explanation for why it is not a good idea to disable it:

 

https://njetwork.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/no-ip-unreachables-no-path-mtu-discovery/

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Hello

Disabling unreachables in conjunction with the rtrs default icmp rate limiting is deemed to help negate against DOS attacks.

 

Icmp’s unreachable packets are used when a destination to a specific network, host, protocol, or port is unreachable.

The router or host may send a destination unreachable packet to inform its source of the ip packets destinations unavailability.

 

 

You can negate ALL destination unreachables packets on a routed interface by disabling them, and as such the source wouldn’t even be notified of the unreachable network. host, port etc…

sh ip int x/x | in ICMP
ICMP redirects are always sent
ICMP unreachables are always sent

Int x/x
no ip unreacbales

sh ip int x/x | in ICMP
ICMP redirects are never sent
ICMP unreachables are never sent


As stated there can occurrences when the ip packet needs to be fragmented to be forwarded by the router but the DF bit in the packet is set then the source would then receive a destination unreachable message from the router if icmp unreachable are disabled and the packet won’t be sent

However my understanding is you can specify what type of unreachables are negated by specifying them in the form of a access-list.


access-list 100 deny  icmp any any ?
 <0-255>                      ICMP message type
  administratively-prohibited  Administratively prohibited
  alternate-address            Alternate address
  conversion-error             Datagram conversion
  dod-host-prohibited          Host prohibited
  dod-net-prohibited           Net prohibited
  dscp                         Match packets with given dscp value
  echo                         Echo (ping)
  echo-reply                   Echo reply
  fragments                    Check non-initial fragments
  general-parameter-problem    Parameter problem
  host-isolated                Host isolated
  host-precedence-unreachable  Host unreachable for precedence
  host-redirect                Host redirect
  host-tos-redirect            Host redirect for TOS
  host-tos-unreachable         Host unreachable for TOS
  host-unknown                 Host unknown
  host-unreachable             Host unreachable
  information-reply            Information replies
  information-request          Information requests
  log                          Log matches against this entry
  log-input                    Log matches against this entry, including input
                               interface
  mask-reply                   Mask replies
  mask-request                 Mask requests
  mobile-redirect              Mobile host redirect
  net-redirect                 Network redirect
  net-tos-redirect             Net redirect for TOS
  net-tos-unreachable          Network unreachable for TOS
  net-unreachable              Net unreachable
  network-unknown              Network unknown
  no-room-for-option           Parameter required but no room
  option-missing               Parameter required but not present
  packet-too-big               Fragmentation needed and DF set
  parameter-problem            All parameter problems
  port-unreachable             Port unreachable
  precedence                   Match packets with given precedence value
  precedence-unreachable       Precedence cutoff
  protocol-unreachable         Protocol unreachable
  reassembly-timeout           Reassembly timeout
  redirect                     All redirects
  router-advertisement         Router discovery advertisements
  router-solicitation          Router discovery solicitations
  source-quench                Source quenches
  source-route-failed          Source route failed
  time-exceeded                All time exceededs
  time-range                   Specify a time-range
  timestamp-reply              Timestamp replies
  timestamp-request            Timestamp requests
  tos                          Match packets with given TOS value
  traceroute                   Traceroute
  ttl-exceeded                 TTL exceeded
  unreachable                  All unreachables

 

ICMP type 3 packets have many codes associated with them but I would say code 0 -1 are the most common messages, please review the following rfc to obtain a better understanding

RFC 792


Please rate and mark as an accepted solution if you have found any of the information provided useful.
This then could assist others on these forums to find a valuable answer and broadens the community’s global network.

Kind Regards
Paul

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Hello,

 

I think disabling ip unreachables is somewhat obsolete; it used to be disabled mainly to reduce CPU usage, but in present devices, it isn't really an issue anymore. The most important negative effect of disabling ip unreachables is that it breaks path MTU discovery.

 

The link below has a pretty good explanation for why it is not a good idea to disable it:

 

https://njetwork.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/no-ip-unreachables-no-path-mtu-discovery/

Hello

Disabling unreachables in conjunction with the rtrs default icmp rate limiting is deemed to help negate against DOS attacks.

 

Icmp’s unreachable packets are used when a destination to a specific network, host, protocol, or port is unreachable.

The router or host may send a destination unreachable packet to inform its source of the ip packets destinations unavailability.

 

 

You can negate ALL destination unreachables packets on a routed interface by disabling them, and as such the source wouldn’t even be notified of the unreachable network. host, port etc…

sh ip int x/x | in ICMP
ICMP redirects are always sent
ICMP unreachables are always sent

Int x/x
no ip unreacbales

sh ip int x/x | in ICMP
ICMP redirects are never sent
ICMP unreachables are never sent


As stated there can occurrences when the ip packet needs to be fragmented to be forwarded by the router but the DF bit in the packet is set then the source would then receive a destination unreachable message from the router if icmp unreachable are disabled and the packet won’t be sent

However my understanding is you can specify what type of unreachables are negated by specifying them in the form of a access-list.


access-list 100 deny  icmp any any ?
 <0-255>                      ICMP message type
  administratively-prohibited  Administratively prohibited
  alternate-address            Alternate address
  conversion-error             Datagram conversion
  dod-host-prohibited          Host prohibited
  dod-net-prohibited           Net prohibited
  dscp                         Match packets with given dscp value
  echo                         Echo (ping)
  echo-reply                   Echo reply
  fragments                    Check non-initial fragments
  general-parameter-problem    Parameter problem
  host-isolated                Host isolated
  host-precedence-unreachable  Host unreachable for precedence
  host-redirect                Host redirect
  host-tos-redirect            Host redirect for TOS
  host-tos-unreachable         Host unreachable for TOS
  host-unknown                 Host unknown
  host-unreachable             Host unreachable
  information-reply            Information replies
  information-request          Information requests
  log                          Log matches against this entry
  log-input                    Log matches against this entry, including input
                               interface
  mask-reply                   Mask replies
  mask-request                 Mask requests
  mobile-redirect              Mobile host redirect
  net-redirect                 Network redirect
  net-tos-redirect             Net redirect for TOS
  net-tos-unreachable          Network unreachable for TOS
  net-unreachable              Net unreachable
  network-unknown              Network unknown
  no-room-for-option           Parameter required but no room
  option-missing               Parameter required but not present
  packet-too-big               Fragmentation needed and DF set
  parameter-problem            All parameter problems
  port-unreachable             Port unreachable
  precedence                   Match packets with given precedence value
  precedence-unreachable       Precedence cutoff
  protocol-unreachable         Protocol unreachable
  reassembly-timeout           Reassembly timeout
  redirect                     All redirects
  router-advertisement         Router discovery advertisements
  router-solicitation          Router discovery solicitations
  source-quench                Source quenches
  source-route-failed          Source route failed
  time-exceeded                All time exceededs
  time-range                   Specify a time-range
  timestamp-reply              Timestamp replies
  timestamp-request            Timestamp requests
  tos                          Match packets with given TOS value
  traceroute                   Traceroute
  ttl-exceeded                 TTL exceeded
  unreachable                  All unreachables

 

ICMP type 3 packets have many codes associated with them but I would say code 0 -1 are the most common messages, please review the following rfc to obtain a better understanding

RFC 792


Please rate and mark as an accepted solution if you have found any of the information provided useful.
This then could assist others on these forums to find a valuable answer and broadens the community’s global network.

Kind Regards
Paul
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