10-15-2014 05:18 AM - edited 03-07-2019 09:07 PM
Hi,
I have been tasked with setting up a new branch office, with 100+ users, a stack of servers (1Gb-based) and some wireless access points, WAN block (ASA 5520 and a couple of routers.)
At the moment, port requirement is around 400.
As there's not enough space and it's only a single floor office, I'm thinking to go ahead with one of Cisco 6500 models, specifically Catalyst 6513-E, as a core and access switch. This way, there won't be any need to try to install 48-port switches around the small office area.
I'm not too sure about the pricing at the moment. It may be a better/cheaper option to go with a couple of 3750s as core/aggregation and 2960s for access switch installed all in the same rack. If I go with small switches, it would be roughly x7 48-port access switches and one stack of two 3750s, which gives about 450-60.
I believe I won't utilise half of the capacity if I go ahead with 6513, however my manager wants to minimise the overhead managing this branch office hence this all-in-all one switch option has resurfaced.
Is there anyone using this kind of similar setup in the environment? If so, can you please share your opinions?
Also, would there be a huge difference in terms of pricing?
Catalyst 6503-E | Catalyst 6504-E | Catalyst 6506-E | Catalyst 6509-E | Catalyst 6513-E | Catalyst 6509-V-E | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Slots | 3 | 4 | 6 | 9 | 13 | 9 vertical |
Max 10/100/1000 ports | 97 | 145 | 241 | 385 | 529 | 385 |
Max 1 GE ports1 | 99 | 147 | 243 | 387 | 534 | 387 |
Max 10 GE ports2 | 34 | 50 | 82 | 130 | 180 | 130 |
Max 40 GE ports | 8 | 12 | 20 | 32 | 44 | 32 |
Maximum forwarding performance (IPv4) | 150 Mpps | 210 Mpps | 330 Mpps | 510 Mpps | 720 Mpps | 510 Mpps |
Height (RU) | 4 | 5 | 11 | 14 | 19 | 21 |
Weight (chassis) | 33 lbs (15 kg) | 40 lbs (17.8 kg) | 50 lbs (22.7 kg) | 60 lbs (27.3 kg) | 79.1 lbs (35.9 kg) | 121 lbs (54.9 kg ) |
Thanks
10-15-2014 06:42 AM
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Will you need PoE? If so, in current 6500 series, believe you'll need IAs. If you go with them, you could use the 6807 or 6880.
You might find the 6500 (especially with dual sups [for redundancy]) pricy compared to using a 2960 stack with a 3750 stack. (BTW, rather than 3750 series, you might want to look at the 3650 or 3850 series, the latter supporting WLAPs.)
Also if you really want to minimize the logical device count, and allow for better performance, you might want to have just a single L3 stack.
Or, another option might be to use 4510. With as many ports as your looking to set up, you might find this even less expensive than some L3 stacks and its performance can be much better.
10-15-2014 07:15 AM
Thanks a lot for your input, Joseph.
I was just going over 4510R+E for a potential winner; It seems to have 10 slots, which gives me about 390 Gig ports, with two dual sups. Given that a single sup 8E can provide throughput as below table, I should think about going forward with a single sup.
Given that most users will be on 100Mbps at peak time and all other miscellaneous traffic, it would come down to around 20Gbps.
Model | Supervisor 8E | Supervisor 7E | Supervisor 7LE | Supervisor 6E | Supervisor 6LE | Supervisor V 10 GE |
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Documentation | Data Sheet | Data Sheet | Data Sheet | Data Sheet | Data Sheet | Data Sheet |
Performance | Supervisor 8E | Supervisor 7E | Supervisor 7LE | Supervisor 6E | Supervisor 6LE | Supervisor V 10 GE |
Switching Capacity | 928 Gbps | 848 Gbps | 520 Gbps | 320 Gbps | 280 Gbps | 136 Gbps |
IPv4 Throughput | 250 Mpps | 250 Mpps | 225 Mpps | 250 Mpps | 225 Mpps | 102 Mpps |
IPv6 Throughput | 125 Mpps | 125 Mpps | 110 Mpps | 125 Mpps | 110 Mpps | Software Switched |
Bandwidth/Slot | 48 Gbps | 48 Gbps | 48 Gbps | 24 Gbps | 24 Gbps | 6 Gbps |
Scalability | Supervisor 8E | Supervisor 7E | Supervisor 7LE | Supervisor 6E | Supervisor 6LE | Supervisor V 10 GE |
Number of Routes | 256K for IPv4 128K for IPv6 | 256K for IPv4 128K for IPv6 | 64K for IPv4 32K for IPv6 | 256K for IPv4 128K for IPv6 | 64K for IPv4 32K for IPv6 | 128K for IPv4 1K for IPv6 |
Number of Packet Buffers | 128K | 128K | 128K | 64K | 64K | 32K |
NetFlow Entries | 128K | 128K | 128K | - | - | 85K |
MAC Learning Rate per Second | 20K | 20K | 14K | 13K | 8K | 8K |
Dynamic Host Control Protocol (DHCP) Snoop Entries | 12K | 12K | 12K | 12K | 3K | 6K |
Number of 10/100/1000 Ports | Up to 384 access | Up to 384 access | Up to 240 access | Up to 384 access | Up to 240 access | Up to 384 access |
10 GE and 1 GE Uplinks | 8 10 GE / 1 GE | 4 10 GE / 1 GE | 2 10 GE / 4 1 GE | 2 10 GE / 4 1 GE (TwinGig) | 2 10 GE / 4 1 GE (TwinGig) | 2 10 GE + 4 1 GE |
1 GE Non-Blocking Fiber Ports | 192 | 192 | 120 | 138 | 120 | 48 |
10 GE Fiber Ports | 96 | 96 | 60 | 30 | 30 | - |
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