MS150..?

[tyshawn76]

I've been in a few webinars and I caught a slide that referenced the MS150 line of switches. Has anyone seen or have a bit more information on these switches?

[tyshawn76]

PREACH!!!!

[Thomas Obbekaer Thomsen]

Can we now discuss price of these switches ? 🙂

Because the Cisco / Meraki switch field here has gone real "muddy" in my opinion.

Example from CCW.

The top 3 ones are 24 ports with mGig ports and 4 x 10G uplinks.

Yes, the C9200 does not have 60 Watt PoE (will there ever be a version that does ?, or should we just declare the C9200 for a "dead" ? - Citation needed 🙂 )

But the MP and the C9300 are dang close to each other in price. And who would not rather have a C9300 that down the road can do more then the MS150 (even in Meraki mode I believe - Or am I now getting into the "refrain from posting pre-release stuff? Pleeeeeze?" territory ? 🙂 ).

The last 3 are standard 24 ports with 10G uplinks (except MS130X that gets some mGig ports).

Here it might make more sense ... I guess...

I know we can throw "stacking" into the mix, where some Catalyst might require a "module" with additional cost to work ...

But am I the only one who thinks the pricing seems , "wrong" / "dosent quite FIT" in the stack of all the different switches on these MS150 switches ?

That MP switch seems at least a thousand $ list too expensive in my opinion.

I know we get new "Tricks" like perpetual PoE (thats a new one), and Adaptive policy across all the MS150 switches, and stacking ... but still ... there is something that seems "off" to me.

Thoughts ?

[mloraditch]

I suggest posting in the EN PVT Webex Team about this. I doubt anyone who can say anything will be able to say much here and there they may be able to, but I tend to agree that this is confusing.

[tyshawn76]

I am looking for a way to word this and not sound cheap or rude. When I look at new devices as a generational leap I look for A. older premium features to be pushed down or B. an increase in som elimination that the prior generation had. Saying that when looking at the MS130/150 I was really hoping Meraki would come out swinging. To Meraki's credit they released a L2 switch that does M-gig and POE++, but the M-gig ports are a bit limiting and for a switch that will be deployed in my environments for the next ~8 years deploying a primarily 1G switch just misses the mark.

Tossing this out as an example if Meraki would have released a 150MP with 12 Multi-gig ports and 12 1G ports I could live with that. Perfect work we could have had an option with 16 or 20 2.5G POE+ ports and 4-8 10G ports with UPOE. Then toss in the option to buy an Advance license and gain L3 light or full L3.

I truly am looking for the silver lining with these switches and I could be sold but for my companies use case and the current price points this direction doesn't line up.

[Thomas Obbekaer Thomsen]

I think this is where you move into C9300 series where you can get switches with all ports as mGig.

For example C9300-48UXM-M, C9300-48UN-M or the 9300X series like C9300X-48HXN-M or C9300X-48HX-M.
The MS100 series is for the "low end", and in this space there is still not that big requirements for full mGig on all ports of a switch, at least in my experience.
And if you had your full mGig switch, you would also need QSFP or SFP28 uplinks (These are available on the C9300(X) models 🙂 )

So you have the options, you might just need to look at a higher tier of switch.

[tyshawn76]

Agreed I we do have options and I see the point of the 100 series. I hope we could see something more in future products.

[Thomas Obbekaer Thomsen]

Like all tech, it will move "down the stack" eventually.

It also took quite a while (it feels like) for 10Gbit uplinks to become "default" / move down the stack.
- /me looking at calender, says 2025, looks at datasheet of new switches, options for 1G only uplinks still exists - hmmmm insert Picard facepalm meme.
But to be serious as always, some customers dont want to pay the price, therefore there is an option.

[CMR]

Indeed, I would have expected the 24MP to have a list price of more like 7k at the most. It loses out to the C9300L below in everything other than already including the stacking ports (which are a cost extra on the C9300L). End user pricing might reflect that better 🤞

[tyshawn76]

Much respect to the ask, but this topic came up due to open slide shared by your sales and sale engineers. Can you help define when it's safe to openly talk about products?

[Thomas Obbekaer Thomsen]

Generally speaking, if its not on the official website, then don’t talk about it. 🙂

[tyshawn76]

Note taken thanks.

[annmarie24us1]

Check out the new MS150 datasheet just published.

MS150 Datasheet - Cisco Meraki Documentation

[CMR]

@annmarie24us1 can you confirm the correct stacking information? The MA220/225 has 80Gbps stacking and uses QSFP+ stacking cables. The MS150 has 80Gbps stacking, but apparently needs QSFP28 cables...??

[tyshawn76]

L2+/L3 lite routing support....? "ears perk up".. IP4/6 ACL support... I like where this is going...

[Thomas Obbekaer Thomsen]

Well we have had static routing , and even OSPF on other platforms.

https://documentation.meraki.com/MS/Layer_3_Switching/MS_Layer_3_Switching_and_Routing

But the MS150 is quite comparable to the MS2xx series in this regard.

But more interesting things are coming Im almost sure of it, hint hint, nudge nudge, say no more.