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Questions about Multicast when L2 and L3 are mixed.

CATYO
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Hello there. 

 

I am very very new to multicast. 

 

I've got some questions and need your helps. 
I draw the topology and questions are in the picture. 

Please help me out and correct me if I was missing something.  

Thank you in advance : 0
 

 

 

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Firstly for anyone else reading this my apologies to Joe.

CSC has always been about treating each other in a polite and courteous way and I didn't, primarily because I thought Joe was trying to pull the wool over my eyes rather than admit a mistake, and in that I think I was mistaken.

I should know better :-)

Joe -

and believe it or not, I really want to! 

that made me laugh (in a good way, no offence intended) and as you know by now how important humour is to me then no more blunt posts :-)

I don't really know what else to say in terms of the initial post. Even after the rewording I think it was your reference to only needing PIM on a single device but for multiple L3 devices you would want a multicast routing protocol.

I can still only read that as meaning PIM isn't a multicast routing protocol ie. you don't need a multicast routing protocol on a single device.

But I readily accept you don't see any mistake in what you wrote so you obviously didn't mean it the way I read it.

Jon

 

Jon, thank you!

Even after the rewording I think it was your reference to only needing PIM on a single device but for multiple L3 devices you would want a multicast routing protocol.

I can still only read that as meaning PIM isn't a multicast routing protocol ie. you don't need a multicast routing protocol on a single device.

If Jon reads what I wrote to mean that, others might too.

I didn't mean to imply PIM isn't a multicast routing protocol or it's only needed on a single device.

As PIM is a multicast routing protocol, it also fulfills the condition of working for multiple L3 devices supporting multicast routing.

However, I did mean to say you may not need a multicast routing protocol on a single device.

My statement about PIM on a single Cisco device was based on my belief that you can multicast between a device's interfaces using PIM (DM interface statements), alone.

I suspect this extraordinary statement is what's causing the confusion, plus my belief might be wrong.

Privately, and recently, Jon has told me he tried interface PIM alone, with an emulator, and it didn't work until he also added ip multicast-routing.  This is what one would expect, and is contrary to what I believed.  However, Jon doesn't fully trust results on an emulator, although it's likely the emulator is correct.

Also privately, and recently, I asked Peter Paluch about this, because he seems more research oriented (i.e. more likely to do something like this in a lab, which you wouldn't do in normal practice).  He too, thinks you must have the interface PIM statements, and expects you'll need the ip multicast-routing statement too, but he is not 100% positive on the latter.  He said he might be able to lab it up.  If he does, I'll post his results.

However, even if it does work, it's not something you would really want to do in practice.  So too it was probably my mistake to even mention it, especially as I didn't emphasis my uncertainty.

Joe

It's no big deal and I can be a bit pedantic at times (you may have noticed :-)) so no offence intended.

Jon

Laugh - no I hadn't notice, because I'm probably more so.  Oh, and certain no offense taken!

Jon Marshall
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To the OP.

Apologies for all the confusion in this post, hope some of what has been said is useful.

If not then please feel free to ask for further clarification.

Jon