replacement for Cat 6500

[susim]

Hi all 

Is there a replacement   for  Cat 6500

Thanks 

[Suresh Vinayagam Subramanian]

Hi ,

I can give more details If you give  more details like your chassis module and your actual need .

Few chassis and Linecards in 6500 series are already EOS / EOL and you can find replacement part in below Docs. But entire 6500 is not EOS or EOL. I guess, it will stay for few more years and AFIK cisco is not announced yet. 

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/prod_end-of-life_notice0900aecd8035ece4.html

Depends on your requirement , you can upgrade your sup to Sup2T or chassis 6800 and nexus 7000.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/switches/catalyst-6800-series-switches/datasheet-listing.html -- 6800 data sheet

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/switches/nexus-7000-series-switches/datasheet-listing.html - Nexus 700 Datasheet.

HTH

Regards,

VS.Suresh.

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[susim]

Hi Thanks

The purpose is below  

1 ) upgrade to 40G connectivity 

2) Looking for a loop free solution . (optional) 

Below is the module 

2	4	CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet	WS-X6704-10GE
3	4	CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet	WS-X6704-10GE
5	2	Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)	WS-SUP720-3BXL
8	48	SFM-capable 48 port 10/100/1000mb RJ45	WS-X6548-GE-TX
2	Centralized Forwarding Card	WS-F6700-CFC	4.1
3	Distributed Forwarding Card	WS-F6700-DFC3BXL	5.3
5	Policy Feature Card 3	WS-F6K-PFC3BXL	1.8
5	MSFC3 Daughterboard	WS-SUP720	2.6

sh verison 

cisco WS-C6509-E (R7000) processor (revision 1.2) with 983008K/65536K bytes of memory.

SR71000 CPU at 600Mhz, Implementation 0x504, Rev 1.2, 512KB L2 Cache

Last reset from s/w reset

9 Virtual Ethernet interfaces

50 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces

8 Ten Gigabit Ethernet interfaces

1917K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.

65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K

Thanks 

[Suresh Vinayagam Subramanian]

Hi ,

1 ) upgrade to 40G connectivity  --->  Below modules are 40 G module but you need to upgrade your sup to sup2T. you can find more details in below link.

WS-X6904-40G-2T	Cisco Catalyst 6900 Series 4-Port 40 Gigabit Ethernet Fiber Module with DFC4
WS-X6904-40G-2TXL	Cisco Catalyst 6900 Series 4-Port 40 Gigabit Ethernet Fiber Module with DFC4XL
WS-X6904-40G-2T=	Cisco Catalyst 6900 Series 4-Port 40 Gigabit Ethernet Fiber Module with DFC4 Spare
WS-X6904-40G-2TXL=	Cisco Catalyst 6900 Series 4-Port 40 Gigabit Ethernet Fiber Module with DFC4XL Spare

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/data_sheet_c78-696623.html

2) Looking for a loop free solution . (optional)    --- I guess, you wanted to avoid STP loop. In 6500 switch , you use VSS .

In nexus environment, you could use VPC , Fabricpath .

HTH

Regards,

VS.Suresh.

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[susim]

Hi 

Thanks 

Is there any  differnec between DFC4XL and DFC4

[susim]

Hi 

Does it make sense 40 GB  DFC4 or with  

dfc4xl is better

Thank you

[Suresh Vinayagam Subramanian]

Hi ,

You can use DFC4XL . XL means , it has more memory and store more TCAM table .

What is the difference between DFC4 and DFC4XL?

A. DFC4XL offers more scalability in terms of IPv4/IPv6 FIB entries, ACL entries, and NetFlow entries compared with DFC4 (see Table 3). Other than those hardware scalability differences, there are no feature differences between DFC4 and DFC4XL.

Table 3. Feature Differences Between DFC4 and DFC4XL

Feature	DFC4	DFC4XL
IPv4 unicast/MPLS forwarding entries	256K	1024K
IPv6 unicast/IPV4 multicast forwarding entries	128K	512K
NetFlow entries	512K	1024K
ACL and QoS TCAM size	64K	256K

1K = 1024.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/qa_c67-362061.html

HTH

Regards,

VS.Suresh.

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[Leo Laohoo]

upgrade to 40G connectivity

IF you want to future-proof your investment, you should be looking towards 100 Gbps instead of 40 Gbps.  

If you are indeed looking for 100 Gbps then you may want to look at 6807-X/6880-X.  

Exactly what is this solution looking at?  I've got a strange feeling this is for DC work.  If this is indeed for DC work, then Catalyst 6500 may not be sufficient and you may need to look at Nexus family of switches.

[elite2010]

Hi 

What if nexus instead of 6807

Thanks 

[susim]

Hi 

This  is for core switch in the core distribution access layer

Thanks

[Leo Laohoo]

This  is for core switch in the core distribution access layer

Exactly what are the "clients"? 

If you're talking about servers then Nexus is the way to go.  If you're talking about PCs, VoIP, printers, etc, then 6807-X/6880-X and 6800IA switch is the perfect fit.  With the 6807-X/6807-X and partner this as a 6800IA switch your core, distro and access layer will collapse into a single logical switch.

[susim]

Hi

Collapsed modal means the core and distribution layer  will be collapsed into one . Correct me if i am wrong . Is it recommended for a large network .

6807-X/6880-X and 6800IA , 6800ia  is the higher end ?

I am sorry that i could not follow the below you wrote 

With the 6807-X/6807-X and partner this as a 6800IA switch your core, distro and access layer will collapse into a single logical switch.

Thanks  a million

[Leo Laohoo]

Collapsed modal means the core and distribution layer  will be collapsed into one . Correct me if i am wrong . Is it recommended for a large network .

Yes and no.  

It all boils down to your network and your network architect.  Old school dictates the old dogma that the Core, Distro and Access has to be physically and logically separated.    Works very well works in certain conditions (regardless of the size of your network), like in a DC with Nexus 7K/9K as core, 5K/6K as distro and 2K/3K as access.  

I would deploy the collapsed network in an office environment.  Your access switches, the 6800IA are all managed from and by the 6807-X/6880-X chassis and all decision-making process are done from and by the 6807-X/6880-X chassis.  The 6800IA switches connect to the chassis.  

By the way, I also forgot that the 6800IA is only 48-ports (PoE and non-PoE).  In the next few weeks a new 8- and 12-port switch (with 1- or 10 Gbps uplink) will be released.  

[susim]

Hi 

Which is the best Vpc or  Vss ? 

[Suresh Vinayagam Subramanian]

Hi ,

VSS - you can use VSS only on IOS devices like 6500,6800,4500 switches .

Most of the Nexus devices support VPC .

VPC supported devices - Nexus 7000,5000, 3000.

HTH

Regards,

VS.Suresh.

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