04-10-2025 03:24 PM
Hi everyone,
I have a customer with CUCM, CUC, CMS and EXP infrastructure. The CUCM version is 11.5 and he has decided to upgrade the various servers. To do this he has purchased new be7k. What's more, he doesn't want these existing servers to be switched off, he doesn't want any loss of service. He has decided to do a parallel configuration. I would like to know if it is possible to back up the config of the different servers to the new servers with the new versions. For example, back up the cucm config to version 11.5 to the new server with a different ip to version 15. Same for all platforms. I know that Cisco recommends doing the upgrade in refresh mode but this client doesn't want to. What do you recommend?
04-11-2025 05:46 PM
he doesn't want any loss of service.
This is an unrealistic expectation. You can work to minimize it but there will be a blip at some point for each app.
He has decided to do a parallel configuration. I would like to know if it is possible to back up the config of the different servers to the new servers with the new versions. For example, back up the cucm config to version 11.5 to the new server with a different ip to version 15.
DRS backup and restores require all platform details - IPv4, hostname, DNS, NTP, security passphrase, etc. and source/destination software version be identical. So that's out. At a (very) high level you have a few options:
The second and third approach are typically done one VM in the cluster at a time. They're effectively the same process, just different approaches to it. The cluster will be in a partitioned state during this: any node running 15 will not be able to communicate with nodes running 11.5.
I have a customer with CUCM, CUC, CMS and EXP infrastructure.
You have a fair amount of ground to cover here; this should be an expensive project. What I wrote above only applies to CUCM & CUC. Expressway is either in-place upgrade, isolated staging environment, or build new and switch DNS SRV records other systems (CUCM, CMS, public internet) use to find Expressway during the cut. The last option is useful when the Expressway config is a dumpster fire and you're better off starting over. Temporarily very short DNS TTL helps, if you go that route. Thankfully I have never needed to learn CMS, so I can't speak to that.
04-12-2025 09:49 PM
Consider performing a fresh install with data export on an isolated network mirroring the production network. Once migration is complete, swap the network cables to minimize service outages for your customer. This approach applies to CUCM, IMP, and Unity Connection.
For Expressway, build it on the same version, restore the backup, and then upgrade.
04-13-2025 06:26 AM
Hello Nitin,
Thanks for this update, I think that for the fresh install it's the audio files that aren't preserved. I would like to know if the certificates are kept in the backup file?
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