01-28-2014 08:32 AM - edited 03-01-2019 11:29 AM
Hi,
We are looking to install RHEL6 OS on our UCS B200M3 servers. Does anyone have any information on whether Cisco has any similar RHEL6 utilities to the following HP utilities:
Many Thanks, Paul
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01-28-2014 10:46 AM
Hi Paul,
For local disk RAID configurations for a server, we have the UCS Manager.
For viewing/setting/modifying BIOS settings, we have the UCS Manager.
For configuring how a server gets booted, we have the UCS Manager.
For configuring OOB access, we have the UCS Manager.
All the utilities you mention require additional programs/agents/etc to be loaded or included in the host Operating System. With UCS Manager, we require *zero* programs/agents. All the magic we do happens below the Operating System --- in the UCS Manager.
What happens when you use any of the above utilities in an HP server environent? Well if the server ever fails, then you have to manually re-apply all the configuration you've done, because those settings aren't really part of the "server" that you care about. Whereas in a UCS environment, if the server ever fails, then all you have to do is re-associate the Service Profile to another blade/rackmount. Because in UCS, we don't "configure servers with settings" --- we create servers with policies. And those policies are all used to define the "server" --- the one that you care about --- not just the hardware.
There are 2 main focal points : Service Availability, and Minimizing the Number of Management Points. We are certain we have a more attractive solution that HP in these regards. And so do our 30,000+ customer base (expanding by the hour).
So to answer your question more directly --- "Does Cisco UCS have a dozen different server configuration utilities to configure servers in a piecemeal fashion?" ---- No we don't, and that's the point.
Hope this helps. Thanks for your question. Cheers,
-Jeff
01-28-2014 10:46 AM
Hi Paul,
For local disk RAID configurations for a server, we have the UCS Manager.
For viewing/setting/modifying BIOS settings, we have the UCS Manager.
For configuring how a server gets booted, we have the UCS Manager.
For configuring OOB access, we have the UCS Manager.
All the utilities you mention require additional programs/agents/etc to be loaded or included in the host Operating System. With UCS Manager, we require *zero* programs/agents. All the magic we do happens below the Operating System --- in the UCS Manager.
What happens when you use any of the above utilities in an HP server environent? Well if the server ever fails, then you have to manually re-apply all the configuration you've done, because those settings aren't really part of the "server" that you care about. Whereas in a UCS environment, if the server ever fails, then all you have to do is re-associate the Service Profile to another blade/rackmount. Because in UCS, we don't "configure servers with settings" --- we create servers with policies. And those policies are all used to define the "server" --- the one that you care about --- not just the hardware.
There are 2 main focal points : Service Availability, and Minimizing the Number of Management Points. We are certain we have a more attractive solution that HP in these regards. And so do our 30,000+ customer base (expanding by the hour).
So to answer your question more directly --- "Does Cisco UCS have a dozen different server configuration utilities to configure servers in a piecemeal fashion?" ---- No we don't, and that's the point.
Hope this helps. Thanks for your question. Cheers,
-Jeff
01-29-2014 06:48 AM
Nice sales pitch Jeff You are right though, for 90%of the things you can do with those utilities the setting won't apply until the next reboot anyway. Applying the settings to the service profile or in the CIMC does the same thing.
To Paul's point though, there are things I'd like to do from the running OS or out of band while the server workload is active.
-Harry
01-29-2014 09:16 AM
Thanks Harry --- I've had a bit of practice
You make very good points here. And I've passed them all on to the Prod Mgmt teams. Appreciate the feedback!
Cheers,
-Jeff
02-11-2014 05:35 AM
Hi Paul
Yep, I also agree these utilities would be useful. Not sure if it helps you, but from my limited testing, it seems as if the ipmitool can switch the one time boot on a UCS blade but only tried on M3 and ran the command from a SUSE linux pre build environment.
Regards Paul
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