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Orkhan Hajizada
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Hello! Does  Tx Power Level affect on AP range? What's best practise for it?

And in what order levels are? The 1 level is the strongest power tx powet? 

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Rich R
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> Does  Tx Power Level affect on AP range?
Yes

> What's best practise for it?
Conduct a full site survey with appropriate power levels set according to the design specifications. Generally speaking you should not be using power level 1.  Also remember it's no good having high power from an AP that can reach far if the return signal from the client cannot reach back to the AP.  High AP power can also cause or aggravate the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_node_problem

> And in what order levels are? The 1 level is the strongest power tx powet?
Power level 1 is the highest.  The actual power will vary according to AP, antenna, channel and regulatory domain.

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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390

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Haydn Andrews
VIP Alumni
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The Cisco Power levels translate to dBm or mW values, Cisco used them as some channels can utilise higher dBm values and also differences between reglatory domains.

Whilst increasing the power level will increase how far the AP can be heard it does not increase how well it can hear - think of it of I have a loud speaker to talk accross a crowd but you don’t, you will hear me but I wont hear you.

Generally the practice is to look to keep the AP power levels within 3dBm of the clients capability, a general practice is to utilise 25mW as the design.

I normally then configure RRM to use 11-17 dBm for the power levels which allows the APs a few levels to increase and decrease, but I then follow it up with a site survey using tools like Ekahau.

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Rich R
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Does the 1 power(the strongest)  affect on something on AP? Maybe lifetime of AP?
No, it should not.  I'm certainly not aware of any evidence that it does.  Quality of components used seems to be the main determinant of AP lifetime.  WiFi transmit power is pretty low in absolute terms, even when at max level (as per Haydn's answer), so there's no reason why the power level should affect AP lifetime.

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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390

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Rich R
VIP
VIP

> Does  Tx Power Level affect on AP range?
Yes

> What's best practise for it?
Conduct a full site survey with appropriate power levels set according to the design specifications. Generally speaking you should not be using power level 1.  Also remember it's no good having high power from an AP that can reach far if the return signal from the client cannot reach back to the AP.  High AP power can also cause or aggravate the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_node_problem

> And in what order levels are? The 1 level is the strongest power tx powet?
Power level 1 is the highest.  The actual power will vary according to AP, antenna, channel and regulatory domain.

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Please click Helpful if this post helped you and Accept as Solution (drop down menu at top right of this reply) if this answered your query.
------------------------------
TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390

Haydn Andrews
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

The Cisco Power levels translate to dBm or mW values, Cisco used them as some channels can utilise higher dBm values and also differences between reglatory domains.

Whilst increasing the power level will increase how far the AP can be heard it does not increase how well it can hear - think of it of I have a loud speaker to talk accross a crowd but you don’t, you will hear me but I wont hear you.

Generally the practice is to look to keep the AP power levels within 3dBm of the clients capability, a general practice is to utilise 25mW as the design.

I normally then configure RRM to use 11-17 dBm for the power levels which allows the APs a few levels to increase and decrease, but I then follow it up with a site survey using tools like Ekahau.

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Orkhan Hajizada
Level 2
Level 2

@Haydn Andrews  @Rich R  Thank you for your answers! One more question. Does the 1 power(the strongest)  affect on something on AP? Maybe lifetime of AP?

Rich R
VIP
VIP

Does the 1 power(the strongest)  affect on something on AP? Maybe lifetime of AP?
No, it should not.  I'm certainly not aware of any evidence that it does.  Quality of components used seems to be the main determinant of AP lifetime.  WiFi transmit power is pretty low in absolute terms, even when at max level (as per Haydn's answer), so there's no reason why the power level should affect AP lifetime.

------------------------------
Please click Helpful if this post helped you and Accept as Solution (drop down menu at top right of this reply) if this answered your query.
------------------------------
TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390

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