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cisco vwlc9800 and ap license

Now i deployed Vwlc9800 (17.12.0) ova file , and joined APs i have 3 questions aboout license. I dont have cisco DNA environment

1- The virtual wireless controller 9800 Need License?

2- I have 20APs connected Model 3802i(US), what the limitation if i connected those APS without license if found in question no1?

3- when i go to Licensing from WLC Management panel i got those note

Smart Licensing StatusENABLED Smart Licensing Using PolicyENABLED
Unique Product ID
C9800-CL-K9
 Unique Serial Number
XXXXXXX
LICENSES IN USE
No licenses in use
 
So what is no licenses in use?
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marce1000
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  - FYI : https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/catalyst-9800-series-wireless-controllers/nb-06-cat9800-ser-wirel-faq-ctp-en.html#CiscoCatalyst9800SeriesWirelessControllerlicensing

 M.



-- Each morning when I wake up and look into the mirror I always say ' Why am I so brilliant ? '
    When the mirror will then always repond to me with ' The only thing that exceeds your brilliance is your beauty! '

so i cant run 20 ap without license right ?

 

   - Normally not , but the VWLC9800 won't complain too much or enforce it , 

 M.



-- Each morning when I wake up and look into the mirror I always say ' Why am I so brilliant ? '
    When the mirror will then always repond to me with ' The only thing that exceeds your brilliance is your beauty! '

marce1000
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  - Also found https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/catalyst-9800-series-wireless-controllers/impl-catalyst-9800-wrls-lan-ctrlr-licens-faq.html
    >...

Q. Is there license enforcement on Catalyst 9800-CL WLC?
A.  If a 9800-CL WLC is not connected to a smart licensing service, there is a limit of 50 access points enforced on the device. Once a 9800-CL WLC is connected to a smart licensing service, this restriction disappears. The compliance of the controller is decided based on the licenses available.
 
                    You may want to read the rest of the document too,
 
 M.


-- Each morning when I wake up and look into the mirror I always say ' Why am I so brilliant ? '
    When the mirror will then always repond to me with ' The only thing that exceeds your brilliance is your beauty! '

i got it , if there no license i have restricted to 50 AP only

Rich R
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That's a little bit surprising because there should an AIR license consumed for each AP which joins the WLC.
It might be a bug that it shows "No licenses in use" when you have not connected it to smart licensing.
What does the output of "sh lic air entities summary" show?
You should also see them under the License Usage section of the "show lic all" output.

As @marce1000 highlighted the enforcement currently only starts for more than 50 APs but Cisco could change that at any time.

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