11-08-2022 07:56 AM
Hi
What is Ipad best practices, i know about this:
But what about creating a special SSID for Ipads? is this a good practice? someone did it?
Have about 2000 Ipads on my network and in some schools, they work very slowly specially when many are in use in the same classroom, no video or youtube are used, but websites with training material. AP is in the classroom!
I have FT enabled but not Fastlane. I read some articles, and many were agreed that Fastlane is not good at all to be active. Any ideas from people who have Fastlane active?
5520 WLC 8.10.181.0.
Radio policy = ALL. is it good practice to have it this way? Should it be only 5Ghz or something else? Any ideas
We have already 2 SSIDs one for internal use with certificate (PCs) and other guest SSID that uses no Layer2 security but MAC and Cisco ISE.
All Ipads are in Microsoft MDM and use that way to get authenticated to the network with help of ISE.
You network admins, how do you run your Ipads? What settings do you use to make Ipads run smoothly?
Any questions are welcome!
11-08-2022 10:00 AM
- FYI : https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/access-points/enterprise-best-practices-ios-ipados-wp.html and https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/wireless/apple-cisco-wireless-optimization-year2-white-paper-r1-27mar2018.pdf
M.
11-08-2022 02:08 PM
@Moudar wrote:
5520 WLC 8.10.181.0.
Have about 2000 Ipads on my network and in some schools, they work very slowly specially when many are in use in the same classroom, no video or youtube are used, but websites with training material.
What model of APs are used, are they "2800/3800/4800/1562/6300 series"?
If they are, I can 100% guarantee this is CSCwd37092.
11-08-2022 11:06 PM
We are using these kinds kinds 2700/2800/9120.
I have 2 schools that complain all the time, one have 2700 and other have 9120.
Ipads we use are generation 8
11-09-2022 01:22 AM
@Moudar wrote:
I have 2 schools that complain all the time
I manage 98 schools. And the first thing I do when I get any complaint is to VERIFY the whole story.
Go to the site, take an iPad with no other apps installed except FAST. Test. Verify. And then investigate.
Configure each 2800 AP with a TCP MSS size of 1250 "config ap tcp enable <AP NAME> 1250".
11-09-2022 06:47 AM
Today i was in 4 different schools and the problem was CSCwd37092.
Many Ipads were connected to 2800, and when connected to 2800 fast is 0 or 2 MB
What i did is that i moved all 2800 to my other WLC which is still running 8.5.x AireOS
Roaming is sacrificed here. The plan is to install 8.10.181.3 ASAP
11-09-2022 02:41 PM - edited 11-09-2022 02:42 PM
@Moudar wrote:
Today i was in 4 different schools and the problem was CSCwd37092.
Many Ipads were connected to 2800, and when connected to 2800 fast is 0 or 2 MB
What i did is that i moved all 2800 to my other WLC which is still running 8.5.x AireOS
Roaming is sacrificed here. The plan is to install 8.10.181.3 ASAP
No, don't downgrade to 8.5. There is a workaround: "config ap tcp enable <AP NAME> 1250".
Try that if it improve things. If it does, then wait for 8.10.183.0 release or just sit on this workaround.
Another important thing: The bug mentions two (2) issues. The workaround only fixes slow WiFi speed but does not fix the failed authentication due to oversize certificates.
11-09-2022 10:59 PM
If the workround does not fix all issues why not downgrade to 8.5?
The new release is already out or do i miss something here:?
https://software.cisco.com/download/specialrelease/53112f47f8edc7e11a26a8c0580915fa
Another question which i got after my Ipad investigation: Why some Ipads connect to 2.4Ghz and other connect to 5Ghz, all ipads were at the same room and all of them were the same model Generation 8?! Our radio policy = All
11-09-2022 11:50 PM
@Moudar wrote:
If the workround does not fix all issues why not downgrade to 8.5?
FN - 72424 - Later Versions of Some Wi-Fi 6 Access Points Fail to Join the WLAN Controller
@Moudar wrote:
Why some Ipads connect to 2.4Ghz and other connect to 5Ghz,
What channel width is set on the 5.0 Ghz?
11-10-2022 12:05 AM
Channel width is 40Mhz for all
I don't know if 80Mhz is a good choice ?!
11-10-2022 12:33 AM
Stick with 40 Mhz width.
11-08-2022 03:09 PM - edited 11-08-2022 03:11 PM
What we do for Apple only environments.
Recommended settings for Wi-Fi routers and access points - Apple Support (AE)
Above are some of the common guidelines we follow, you may incorporate them to your design after doing a site survey and a feasibility study.
11-08-2022 11:40 PM
But if we have a mixed environment, Ipads and PCs and other Android devices.
Is it a good practice to create a new SSID specially for Ipads (Already have 2 SSIDs)?
At schools we have many Ipads (one for every student) and some PCs (Teachers and management).
11-09-2022 02:27 AM
I am not a big fan of having separate SSID based on device type. My belief is that you must design your WLAN for the lowest capable client in your network. That being said, he guidelines I have provided above are tried and tested with multiple client types across many schools which we deployed recently.
As I said key points you need to consider.
To answer your question about Fastlane, have it enabled. It can help to provide better connectivity when paired with a MDM and configured correctly from WLC side.
12-04-2022 04:00 PM
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