04-05-2022 07:21 AM - edited 04-05-2022 07:26 AM
Hello. I'm troubleshooting wireless network latency.
-seven Meraki MR46 APs (using 802.11 a,b,g,n)
-Firmware: MR 27.7.1 (latest available is MR 28.6)
My only network assess is through the Meraki Dashboard.
Symptom...
"Since 2-3 weeks the users are reporting the slow speed on Wifi. The speed actually fluctuates from one place to another, And few times it doesn’t work."
Meraki dashboard shows...
-excessive use of the 2.4 GHz #6 channel
-excessive use of the 5.0 GHz band #36 channel (40Mhz wide channels).
-low usage of other channels.
AP configurations are supposed to dynamically utilize other channels to maximize network performance.
My action plan:
-Change 1 AP configurations to manual to increase usage of other channels.
-After successful test, change remaining APs accordingly.
I changed 1 AP from auto channel-negotiate to manual, turned off the 2.4 frequency, and also changed the 2.4 frequency power to 0) to force utilization of only the 5 GHz band.
Now, after changing 1 AP, the results seem to not show any improvement. The 5 GHz band use is at 2%.
Also, the Meraki dashboard seems to lack functionality I see in Youtube videos.
QUESTIONS:
1. Why does the dashboard lack functionality? (screenshot attached)
2. Must the clients reboot in order to utilize these new conditions?
3. How can I tell if this network is using a WLC?
4. What is the correct troubleshoot here?
Thank you!
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04-06-2022 10:51 PM
you got good input from a lot of people here, one thing I do want to add is MR 28.6 has some general performance issues, I have had several issues with several customer with both 27.7.X and 28.6, and most of them were resolved by reloading AP, talk to your SE, they would know as well.
I would add few recommendation
Reload your APs once.
Have a wireless survey done.
don't use channel bonding, stick to 20Mhz channel width.
Meraki is a great product once you get a hang of it, probably the best product Cisco ever acquired.
04-21-2022 04:53 AM
The solution that worked on this problem was to change the channel bandwidth from 40MHz to 20Mhz.
04-05-2022 07:25 AM
- You may also go here for that particular question : https://community.meraki.com/t5/Wireless-LAN/bd-p/wireless-lan
M.
04-05-2022 08:04 AM
QUESTIONS:
1. Why does the dashboard lack functionality? (screenshot attached)
Realy difficult to answer. This need to be asked to Cisco BU or higher and is relative. They might say that this have the functionality they want it to have.
2. Must the clients reboot in order to utilize these new conditions?
Wifi is ajustible to changes but doesn´t hurt disconnect and connect again.
3. How can I tell if this network is using a WLC?
Not sure here.
4. What is the correct troubleshoot here?
I think you went well.
I´d like to add a few advises. If you can, turn 2.4 off.
I´ll commend using your post:
"Meraki dashboard shows...
-excessive use of the 2.4 GHz #6 channel
-excessive use of the 5.0 GHz band #36 channel (40Mhz wide channels).
-low usage of other channels.
AP configurations are supposed to dynamically utilize other channels to maximize network performance."
--- The algorithm they use fails a lot but sometimes configuration can cause this. The algorithm takes action based on the information it receives or not receives.
"My action plan:
-Change 1 AP configurations to manual to increase usage of other channels.
-After successful test, change remaining APs accordingly.
I changed 1 AP from auto channel-negotiate to manual, turned off the 2.4 frequency, and also changed the 2.4 frequency power to 0) to force utilization of only the 5 GHz band."
Depending on the size of the site, doing this in one AP may not give you good result. I´d go with an area or at least three AP.
But I agree that this is a good start.
"Now, after changing 1 AP, the results seem to not show any improvement. The 5 GHz band use is at 2%."
That´s why I advise do it in one area instead.
some things I´d take a look.
How is your client per AP distribution? Channel utilization can be the result of too many users per AP.
You mentioned that it start 2 -3 weeks ago. Something has change on the environment? some Layout changes? Anything that can explain it?
Quick story. I had a Call Center over wifi recently and problem start to pop up out of the nothing and everyone blame wifi. But it turns out that the application they were using was the cause of the problem.
Wifi is always the weak side of the history and if you dig, you´ll always find problems but wifi is meant to be self healing and survive but some application does not like this.
Wifi works well when you have good client x AP count. AP properly distribute inside the building. Automatic configuration. 2.4 off.
Channel width can also be a problem. If so, lower it to 20Mhz and test. It is better to have good narow channel then problematic wide channel.
04-05-2022 07:55 PM
>1. Why does the dashboard lack functionality? (screenshot attached)
You made me chuckle. What functionality do you think it is missing? It has impressive diagnostics in my opinion.
2. Must the clients reboot in order to utilize these new conditions?
No.
3. How can I tell if this network is using a WLC?
I don't think you are fundamentally understand Meraki. It is a cloud controller, so every AP is managed - but not by a Cisco Enterprise WLC.
4. What is the correct troubleshoot here?
It looks like you fundamentally have your 2.4Ghz spectrum heavily used. This may not be by you, but by someone else near your area. Can you disable 2.4Ghz? Most corporate networks only use 5Ghz for their internal networks these days because of this issue.
04-06-2022 10:51 PM
you got good input from a lot of people here, one thing I do want to add is MR 28.6 has some general performance issues, I have had several issues with several customer with both 27.7.X and 28.6, and most of them were resolved by reloading AP, talk to your SE, they would know as well.
I would add few recommendation
Reload your APs once.
Have a wireless survey done.
don't use channel bonding, stick to 20Mhz channel width.
Meraki is a great product once you get a hang of it, probably the best product Cisco ever acquired.
04-21-2022 04:53 AM
The solution that worked on this problem was to change the channel bandwidth from 40MHz to 20Mhz.
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