wisim controller and 5760 for vlan design

[syed baseeruddin]

Hi

In our project  there are two wisim controller connected in one switch 6509

and other controller 5760 & they are 28 th floor ,with single ssid

for design for vlan 

so i need two vlans for wism 

1 one service port vlan

2 mgmt vlan

and we using AP groups for 28th floor

so need need 28th vlans 

and 5760 controller connected to 4948 switch in which five floor are connected with access point  2602

so   i need 6 vlans

one for mgmt

and other five vlans for AP groups

[Prabath Godevithanage · Accepted solution]

Hi Sayed,

For WISMs you'd require at least two VLANs,One as the service vlan and the other for Management.

then the next question where you going to have your clients??

Also I'm not sure how you going to use your 5760,If you are going to use it as an extension(or tertiary) to the SSID's in wism,you'll need  to stretch the SSID VLANs from your 6509 across to the 5760.

you could have your APs in different set of VLANs according to the number of APs you going to have.

Cheers

[syed baseeruddin]

Thanks preranda

there is a hotel of 28th floors and only single ssid,so in a controller i need create  28 interfaces of vlans .

they are 200 Aps of series 1040 access points

and for  5760 controller is there 98 APs of series 2602 Acess points

and these 98 accesspoint are distributed in five floor

please advice for vlan design

Could you please post any links for configuration guides for two wism &5760 controller for both extension (or tertiary)

or

for if i make primary secondary ,tertiary

and what configuration is  to be done on both wism & 5760 controller

for wism 

for example ip dhcp pool wism-mgmt

                  network 192.168.1.0 255.255.254.0

                   default-router 192.168.1.254 

we can assign two ips and excluded from dhcp server

int vlan 86

ip add 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0

noshutdown

ip add of first wism 192.168.1.1 and wism 192.168.1.2

and for controller 5760 we can assign  same dhcp server and then excluded from dhcp server

and these controller 192.168.1.3

as far i know wism do not support accesspoint registration 2602 correct me if am wrong

please advice for these topology

[Prabath Godevithanage · Accepted solution]

DHCP pool configuration is one thing you could do to get the wism going. you also could configure the static IPs using the session command or console, check here. Here is the initial config guide.

As for the VLANs, I'll throw in some ideas but might vary on your requirements. I assume that this would be a guest environment where you'd use a portal or static key for authentication. I would just stick with 1 VLAN for the single SSID or use the Interface group option in the controller to group few VLANs. Non-routed VLAN for wism, One for WLC Management interfaces, One or two VLANs for APs 

Since you'd need the 5760 to run a new code to support 2602 primary secondary tertiary wouldn't work for you.You'd have to go with Primary,Secondary wism and 5760 as a separate controller (Yes,wism wouldn't support 2602 but wism2 would).So you wouldn't have roaming between wism and 5760

[syed baseeruddin]

Thanks Preranda for your support

1.i will make primary and secondary for two wism 1 controllers

2.so i need two vlan one for serviceport and one mgmt vlan

3.for vlan for floor in guest network i will make AP groups

single ssid will maps to 27 floor

4.for 5760 controller we need another vlan mgmt

then these single ssid will maps to 5 floor separtely(only 2602 Acess point are connected)

5.for wism controller for registration of Access points
we need option 43 is required or dns server for example

for example ip dhcp pool wism-mgmt

network 192.168.1.0 255.255.254.0

default-router 192.168.1.254

dns-server 192.168.1.254
or
option 43 is required

please correct me if i make any mistakes in the vlan design

[Prabath Godevithanage]

Hi Sayed,What about VLANs for APs? specifically the ones that you need to force to go on to 5760. You'd have to carefully plan the AP registration process as you may want or do no want APs from wism to go on to 5760.So you gotta find out how you going to set the DHCP options, Alternatively you can put all the APs going to 5760 in to a different VLAN than the APs on the wism. These are only suggestions from what I can see from your questions, If you are in the designing phase you'd  have to carefully consider whole your environment before taking any decisions

[syed baseeruddin]

Thanks prabath

Need your advice

Hi 

in our one project they are two wisim 1 module in 6500

and one  5760 controller  connected two same lan network 

and 5760 controller is connected two lan network switch 4948 switch

for wisim 1 modules native vlan is compulsary or

we can make controller mgmt ip add for AP registration

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And for AP groups for Vlan design there are 28th floor the details of AP as shown below

Floor No.	Qty	AP Type
Roof Floor	4	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
28th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
27th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
26th Floor	7	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
25th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
24th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
23rd Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
22nd Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
21st Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
20th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
19th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
18th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
17th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
16th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
15th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
14th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
13th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
12th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
11th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
10th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
9th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
8th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
7th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
6th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
5th Floor	7	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
4th Floor	10	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
3rd Floor	19	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
2nd Floor	18	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
First Floor	17	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
Mezzanine Floor	4	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
Ground Floor	17	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
B1	31	cisco 2602 with External Antenna
B2	11	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
B3	9	Cisco 1040 with integrated Antenna
Total	308

for each Five floor one one AP groups subnet like  192.168.15.x/24

or 

for each floor seperate subnets for AP groups Experts please advice

For mobility groups 

for two wisim 1 module and 5760 controller

As far i known we cannot make mobility groups for wisim 1 and 5760 controller

expert please advice for mobility groups in this topology