8831 and license cucm

[abecquet-LP]

Hi Everyone,

We ordered yesterday a Cisco 8831, but we will get the license only in 2 days, could we anyway connect this phone to the CUCM, does it will be allowed by the CUCM  using a kind of temporary / trial licence in waiting the license?

[Manish Gogna]

Hi,

The Cisco Unified IP Conference Phone 8831 requires an Enhanced User Connect License (UCL) on Cisco UCM Versions 9.0 and later. If your ELM/PLM has a license available then you can register this phone, else it will not register.

Manish

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[Jitender Bhandari]

Hi,

So like Manish said 8831  would require Enhanced User Connect License (UCL)

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-8800-series/data_sheet_c78-726887.html

But you can always borrow licences from higher tier

License types are categorized into license tiers, where the higher license tiers offer more functionality than the lower tiers. For example, CUWL Professional, the highest Unified CM-tiered type, offers more functionality than CUWL Premium or Advanced (the exact functionality is specified in the License Usage Details screen). The License Usage Table View and Chart View (as shown in the figure above) display the types in order of tier, highest to lowest.

License substitution refers to the Cisco Prime License Manager feature where a higher tier license type can be substituted for a lower-tiered type that would otherwise be in overage. In the Chart View example (in the above figure), there are 50 spare CUWL Professional licenses on loan to Basic. In this example, the 50 spare licenses are sufficient to cover the entire Basic overage. If the user installs a license file that adds Basic licenses, the spare CUWL Professional license would then be available for future CUWL Professional requirements.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/plm/10_5_1/userguide/CPLM_BK_UD1156AD_00_user-guide-rel-1051/CPLM_BK_UD1156AD_00_user-guide-rel-1051_chapter_010.html

So if you have a higher tier licence available 8831 would still work.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/10_0_1/ccmfeat/CUCM_BK_F3AC1C0F_00_cucm-features-services-guide-100/CUCM_BK_F3AC1C0F_00_cucm-features-services-guide-100_chapter_0100101.html

The following are the license types for the Unified Communications Manager:

Essential	Essential User Connect License - supports one device providing basic voice or analog device (phone or fax). (For example: analog phone, ATA 186, ATA 187, Cisco 3905, Cisco 6901)
Basic	Basic User Connect License - supports one device, including all Essential devices, plus basic (voice and video) call control features. (For example: Cisco 6911, Cisco 6921)
Enhanced	Enhanced User Connect License - supports one device, including all Basic devices, plus advanced (voice and video) call control features including desktop and mobile clients. (For example: Cisco 3911, Cisco 3951, Cisco 6941, Cisco 6945, Cisco 6961, Cisco 79xx, Cisco 89xx, Cisco 99xx, Cisco E20, Cisco TelePresence EX60, Cisco TelePresence EX90, third party SIP)
Enhanced Plus	Enhanced Plus User Connect License - supports up to two devices, and including all Enhanced devices.
CUWL Standard	CUWL Standard Unified Workspace Licensing (UWL) license for Unified CM - supports advanced (voice and video) call control features including desktop and mobile with maximum of two devices per user.
CUWL Professional	CUWL Professional Unified Workspace Licensing (UWL) license for Unified CM - includes CUWL Standard features and professional collaboration workspace application features with maximum of ten devices per user.
TelePresence Room	TelePresence Room license - supports room based immersive and multipurpose Cisco TelePresence System endpoints. (For example: Cisco TelePresence System Series 3200, 3000, 1300; Cisco TelePresence MX Series; Cisco TelePresence TX Series; Cisco TelePresence System Profile Series)

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JB

[abecquet-LP]

Interresting, so we use the  CUCM version 10.5.2 , below the licenses we using. Does they should allow us to use temporary the  8831?

Type	Product type	Needed	installed	available	Status
Amélioré (Enhanced) (10.x)	Unified CM	45	45	0	Conforme
De base (Basic) (10.x)	Unified CM	38	55	15	Conforme
Essentiel (Essential) (10.x)	Unified CM	24	22	0	Conforme

[Jitender Bhandari · Accepted solution]

So as i said 8831 falls in Enhanced category which means if you have any of the below it would borrow a licences from that category.

Enhanced Plus	Enhanced Plus User Connect License - supports up to two devices, and including all Enhanced devices.
CUWL Standard	CUWL Standard Unified Workspace Licensing (UWL) license for Unified CM - supports advanced (voice and video) call control features including desktop and mobile with maximum of two devices per user.

CUWL Professional are used for webex kinds of integration.

CUWL Professional

CUWL Professional Unified Workspace Licensing (UWL) license for Unified CM - includes CUWL Standard features and professional collaboration workspace application features with maximum of ten devices per user.

So if you only have the licences shown in table above, it would not work. Till the time you add an Enhance licence.

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JB

[Manish Gogna]

With only basic license it will not work.

Manish