12-05-2021 04:10 AM
Anyone ever use SMACS (Stack8 Moves, Adds and Changes System) for provisioning users and services within Cisco CUCM?
Reviews online are very limited. I wondering what some folks give as arguments or considerations against it. Stack8 touts the software for delegating everyday MACs to end users and Help Desk to liberate senior engineers. Not sure how well that will work out and I'm wondering if the backend support of the product will wind up creating more work for the seniors in the long run. All opinions welcome.
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06-14-2022 01:33 PM
We have been using it with 12.5 and it does save a lot of time once setup. It works best for users with single lines. When you start adding 2nd lines with hunt groups it gets a bit more complex. BUT were were able to hand off 90% of phone MACs to our end user support group.
06-28-2022 01:04 PM
I evaluated SMACS and Akkadian about 2.5 years ago. At the time, we liked the UI of SMACs, but it was lacking in some backend functions. If I recall correctly, I needed to have softphone devices in a separate device pool than hardware devices for the same user, and they could not do this. I believe they've since corrected this. We ended up going with Akkadian, but honestly I think you'll be fairly happy with either, as they both appear to be committed to their product development.
12-05-2021 05:55 AM - edited 12-05-2021 10:22 PM
We use SMACS for our 3 cluster environment with about 165 sites and 25K devices since soon 18 months. It works really well and has saved us a ton on the time needed to provision new or changes to our user community and it also provides savings for less troubleshooting for mis-configuration as the creation of devices are template driven. We estimated that the time savings for a complete setup of all devices and services for a standard user went from ~40 minutes to between 3-4.
Our service desk loves the ease of use interface, with the 360 degree pane that shows all devices and services for a user in one easy to digest view. We also use the site admin function to grant access to our On Site Support personnel to administer “their” users devices for the site(s) they support. This was not possible before with just the CM admin UI. They as well are very happy with this functionality.
The setup of the system is very straightforward and we managed to have it setup for all our sites in about 40-60 hours of total work. After this there are literally not that much work needed to maintain the system. The odd updates on occasion when new releases are made available and these takes about 10-15 minutes to implement. Upgrades are made in a similar manner as on CVOS systems, as SMACS run in dual partition, so you upgrade the inactive side of the system and then switch over the traffic to it once you’re happy with the result, with minimal disruption to the service.
The interaction with the support organisation at Stack8 is second to none in ease. Their very responsive and easy to work with.
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12-05-2021 06:15 AM
Thanks for your input. Sounds like a good product. Having said that, I have yet to see any application without some sort of short fall or a down side so to speak. Can you point to any caveats? I like to look at this from all sides.
12-05-2021 09:33 AM - edited 12-05-2021 10:15 PM
If there would be a short coming it would be that not all settings, many but not all are possible to define, are made available to either set a standard for the site or modify it at creation of the device/service from the 360 view. Otherwise we have not actually encountered any downfalls.
06-14-2022 01:33 PM
We have been using it with 12.5 and it does save a lot of time once setup. It works best for users with single lines. When you start adding 2nd lines with hunt groups it gets a bit more complex. BUT were were able to hand off 90% of phone MACs to our end user support group.
06-28-2022 01:04 PM
I evaluated SMACS and Akkadian about 2.5 years ago. At the time, we liked the UI of SMACs, but it was lacking in some backend functions. If I recall correctly, I needed to have softphone devices in a separate device pool than hardware devices for the same user, and they could not do this. I believe they've since corrected this. We ended up going with Akkadian, but honestly I think you'll be fairly happy with either, as they both appear to be committed to their product development.
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