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Errors on Point to Point T1's - 2811 - Timing issue?

Jake Pratt
Level 1
Level 1

I have an old 7200, with a T3 terminating on it.  From there, I have several Point to Point T1's through Qwest terminating at various remote locations.  At one of my locations, I have a 2811, terminating 2 PTP T1's, and I am getting lots of errors on the T1's.  This has caused some issues with data speeds and voice quality (VOIP).  I suppose there could be some QOS issues, but I'm not sure.  I have had Qwest test the lines, and they have run clean to the NIU.  They are telling me there is probably a timing issue on the router config.

I have another 2811 configured the same way, and it has no problems.  I'm not sure what I'm missing.  Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

Jake

Here is some info from my environment:

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The two channels on the T3 on my 7200 that point to these T1's and the service policy referenced:

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interface Serial1/0/6:0

description Qwest Circuit ID# *********991                                                   

ip address 10.1.252.21 255.255.255.252

ip pim sparse-dense-mode

service-policy output axiom-voice

!

interface Serial1/0/7:0

description Qwest Circuit ID# *********992                                                   

ip address 10.1.252.25 255.255.255.252

ip pim sparse-dense-mode

service-policy output axiom-voice

!

class-map match-any voip-control

  match ip dscp af31

class-map match-any voip-rtp

  match ip dscp ef

!

!

policy-map axiom-voice

  class voip-rtp

   priority percent 33

  class voip-control

   bandwidth percent 5

  class class-default

   fair-queue

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Some show interfaces of the Serial Interfaces on my 2811

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Serial1/0/0:0 is up, line protocol is up

  Hardware is DSX1

  Description: Qwest PTP Circuit ID# **********991

  Internet address is 10.1.252.22/30

  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit/sec, DLY 20000 usec,

     reliability 255/255, txload 11/255, rxload 49/255

  Encapsulation HDLC, loopback not set

  Keepalive set (10 sec)

  Last input 00:00:00, output never, output hang never

  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 8w0d

  Input queue: 0/75/228/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 1487

  Queueing strategy: weighted fair

  Output queue: 0/1000/64/1487 (size/max total/threshold/drops)

     Conversations  0/25/256 (active/max active/max total)

     Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)

     Available Bandwidth 1152 kilobits/sec

  5 minute input rate 299000 bits/sec, 90 packets/sec

  5 minute output rate 69000 bits/sec, 29 packets/sec

     101067499 packets input, 499789832 bytes, 0 no buffer

     Received 741536 broadcasts, 14975 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles

     19643 input errors, 19638 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 487 abort

     99354543 packets output, 301350989 bytes, 0 underruns

     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets

     0 unknown protocol drops

     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

     0 carrier transitions

Layton-2811#sho int Serial1/0/1:0

Serial1/0/1:0 is up, line protocol is up

  Hardware is DSX1

  Description: Qwest PTP Circuit ID# **********992

  Internet address is 10.1.252.26/30

  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit/sec, DLY 20000 usec,

     reliability 255/255, txload 16/255, rxload 8/255

  Encapsulation HDLC, loopback not set

  Keepalive set (10 sec)

  Last input 00:00:00, output never, output hang never

  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 8w0d

  Input queue: 0/75/656/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 1741

  Queueing strategy: weighted fair

  Output queue: 0/1000/64/1741 (size/max total/threshold/drops)

     Conversations  0/29/256 (active/max active/max total)

     Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)

     Available Bandwidth 1152 kilobits/sec

  5 minute input rate 52000 bits/sec, 23 packets/sec

  5 minute output rate 97000 bits/sec, 72 packets/sec

     104860684 packets input, 552205434 bytes, 0 no buffer

     Received 741546 broadcasts, 15957 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles

     20742 input errors, 20739 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 535 abort

     90196734 packets output, 2306764998 bytes, 0 underruns

     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets

     0 unknown protocol drops

     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

     0 carrier transitions

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The majority of the config on my 2811

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Current configuration : 7660 bytes

!

! Last configuration change at 17:02:45 MST Wed Feb 29 2012

!

version 12.4

service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime

service timestamps log datetime msec localtime

service password-encryption

!

hostname *********-2811

!

boot-start-marker

boot-end-marker

!

card type t1 1 0

card type t1 1 1

logging message-counter syslog

logging buffered 51200 warnings

!

no aaa new-model

clock timezone MST -7

clock summer-time MST recurring

network-clock-participate slot 1

network-clock-select 1 T1 1/0

!

dot11 syslog

ip source-route

!

!

ip cef

ip dhcp excluded-address 10.1.9.1 10.1.9.25

!

ip dhcp pool ********DHCP

   network 10.1.9.0 255.255.255.0

   default-router 10.1.9.1

   option 150 ip *********

   dns-server **********

   domain-name *********

!

!

no ip domain lookup

ip multicast-routing

no ipv6 cef

multilink bundle-name authenticated

!

!

!

!

isdn switch-type primary-ni

!

!

!

voice service voip

fax protocol pass-through g711ulaw

h323    

  h225 display-ie ccm-compatible

  call preserve

modem passthrough nse codec g711ulaw

!

!

!

voice class codec 1

codec preference 1 g711ulaw

codec preference 2 g729r8

!

!

!

!

voice class h323 1

  h225 timeout tcp establish 3

  h225 timeout ntf 100

h225 display-ie ccm-compatible

!

!

voice translation-rule 1

rule 1 /^2*/ /8015252/

!

!

voice translation-profile SRST-MASK

translate calling 1

!

!

voice-card 0

!

voice-card 1

!

!

!

archive

log config

  hidekeys

!

!

controller T1 1/0

cablelength short 133

pri-group timeslots 1-24

!

controller T1 1/0/0

clock source internal

cablelength long 0db

channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24

!

controller T1 1/0/1

clock source internal

cablelength short 110

channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24

!

!

!

!

!

interface FastEthernet0/0

no ip address

duplex full

speed 100

!

interface FastEthernet0/0.10

description Data Vlan 10

encapsulation dot1Q 10

ip address 10.1.8.1 255.255.255.0

ip helper-address 10.1.2.10

!

interface FastEthernet0/0.20

description Voice Vlan 20

encapsulation dot1Q 20

ip address 10.1.9.1 255.255.255.0

h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 10.1.9.1

!

interface FastEthernet0/0.30

description Management Interface

encapsulation dot1Q 30

ip address 10.1.250.17 255.255.255.248

!

interface FastEthernet0/1

no ip address

duplex auto

speed auto

!

interface Serial1/0:23

no ip address

encapsulation hdlc

isdn switch-type primary-ni

isdn incoming-voice voice

isdn supp-service name calling

no cdp enable

!

interface Serial1/0/0:0

description Qwest PTP Circuit ID# **********991

ip address 10.1.252.22 255.255.255.252

ip pim sparse-dense-mode

!

interface Serial1/0/1:0

description Qwest PTP Circuit ID# *********992

ip address 10.1.252.26 255.255.255.252

ip pim sparse-dense-mode

!

router eigrp 7

passive-interface FastEthernet0/0.10

passive-interface FastEthernet0/0.20

passive-interface FastEthernet0/0.30

network 10.0.0.0

no auto-summary

!

ip forward-protocol nd

!

ip http server

no ip http secure-server

ip http timeout-policy idle 60 life 86400 requests 10000

!

!

logging trap debugging

logging 10.1.2.24

!

!

snmp-server community *********** RO

!

control-plane

!

!

!

voice-port 1/0:23

!

!

!

!

!

dial-peer voice 1 pots

!

################ Removed all my dial peers to keep it a little cleaner on the discussion ################

!

dial-peer voice 109 voip

!

!

!

call-manager-fallback

secondary-dialtone 9

max-conferences 3 gain -6

transfer-system full-consult

timeouts interdigit 5

ip source-address 10.1.9.1 port 2000

max-ephones 42

max-dn 144

system message primary Your current options

transfer-pattern 9T

alias 1 xxxx to xxxx

alias 2 xxxx to xxxx

alias 3 xxxx to xxxx

translation-profile incoming SRST-MASK

!

line con 0

privilege level 15

password 7 ***************

login

line aux 0

line vty 0 4

privilege level 15

password 7 ****************

login

transport input telnet

line vty 5 15

privilege level 15

password 7 ****************

login

transport input telnet

!

scheduler allocate 20000 1000

ntp source FastEthernet0/0.10

ntp server x.x.x.x

end

17 Replies 17

I think the point to point T1 is just copper.  I don't think they provide clock.  I just double checked my 7200, where the T3 terminates, and I had clock set to line there.  I think that might need to be set to internal, since it's where all my point to point T1's terminate.

I set it to clock source internal

and set my P2P T1's to clock source line

After making that change, I'm still getting lots of slip seconds.  But I haven't had a chance to hard bounce the routers yet.  I don't know that will make a difference or not.

Does that sound right to everyone?  If they are just providing copper, I should have my T3 set to internal, and all my T1's set to line?

If your T3 is functioning ok, then you are getting clocking from the provider. As far as the point to points, assuming a leased line from the telco, they should be timed from the line also.

Ashish Arora
Level 1
Level 1

Paste the output of

show network-clock

also try to replace the cable from the smart jack till the routers.

input errors and crc are cause of layer one issue , if  Career has alreay tested the line upto the smart jack ,then its recommended to replace cable from smartjack till the router.

as far as the serial line is concerned, there are

19643 input errors, 19638 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 487 abort

input errors and CRC are nearly equivalent , then its a layer 1 issue..

you just try to replace cables from smart jack upto the router.

also you can try to use a loopback connecter and check the VWIC2 module.

for creation of loopback you need to take a RJ 45 cable , twist the wire 1,4 and 2,5  ;plug this cable into serial port , set clock as internal and encapsulation hdlc, after that ping your local interface and then check the interface

see if this test go's clean..

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