09-16-2008 03:33 AM - edited 03-03-2019 11:33 PM
Hi,
How to measure the packet drop between two routers?..Is there any specific formula for this?....The source and destination router is geographically located...
Kindly help me urgently...
09-16-2008 03:40 AM
Hi!
SNMP and extract the data with some network management tool like CiscoWorks for example.
Also with
show interface gi0/0 sum
you can see if there are packet drops from input and output queue on one interface.
* gi0/0 is only example
Does this info help you?
Cheers,
Calin
09-16-2008 03:53 AM
I have not been given telnet access so i cannot check on router....is there any other way out?...say if i know RTT, throughput and TCP window size, can i calculate the packet drop?..if yes, then how?
09-16-2008 04:24 AM
If you knew all the varibles, in theory I believe you could calculate expected packet drop, but I've never seen it done in practice. The number of variables to consider is quite extensive.
For TCP, you can precompute the BDP (bandwidth delay product). Having this value provides for optimal TCP transmission rate, but won't provide information about what drops you might see in actual practice. Again, many other variables.
For actual traffic, like with routers, you could record the packets sent/received at the end hosts. However, even if they match, the sending TCP host could have thought there were drops when there were not. So you need to also look at TCP retransmissions.
e.g. (From a Windows host)
C:\>netstat -s
IPv4 Statistics
Packets Received = 66730
Received Header Errors = 0
Received Address Errors = 3
Datagrams Forwarded = 0
Unknown Protocols Received = 0
Received Packets Discarded = 274
Received Packets Delivered = 66456
Output Requests = 52088
Routing Discards = 0
Discarded Output Packets = 0
Output Packet No Route = 0
Reassembly Required = 0
Reassembly Successful = 0
Reassembly Failures = 0
Datagrams Successfully Fragmented = 0
Datagrams Failing Fragmentation = 0
Fragments Created = 0
ICMPv4 Statistics
Received Sent
Messages 8 15
Errors 0 0
Destination Unreachable 0 0
Time Exceeded 0 0
Parameter Problems 0 0
Source Quenches 0 0
Redirects 0 0
Echos 0 12
Echo Replies 8 0
Timestamps 0 0
Timestamp Replies 0 0
Address Masks 0 0
Address Mask Replies 0 0
TCP Statistics for IPv4
Active Opens = 1622
Passive Opens = 42
Failed Connection Attempts = 32
Reset Connections = 742
Current Connections = 1
Segments Received = 43329
Segments Sent = 30755
Segments Retransmitted = 37
UDP Statistics for IPv4
Datagrams Received = 21272
No Ports = 3702
Receive Errors = 0
Datagrams Sent = 21273
09-16-2008 04:06 AM
Between two routers, the one place you're likely to see drops, is on the interface's drop counter. You can compare that value to the counter for output packets, also on the interface.
Another place for drops, when using WAN "cloud" technolgies, are drops within the WAN cloud. Assuming you have counters that register packets sent (on the outgoing router) and counters that register packets received (on the receiving router), the difference will be drops within the WAN cloud. (NB: do keep in mind you need to compare counters for the same time period.)
For presentation of drops, they're often presented as a drop percentage during some time periods; i.e. packet drops divided by packets sent multiplied by 100.
PS:
The impact of drops varies per traffic type. For instance, TCP usually continues to perform fairly well up to about a 1% drop rate. Much above that, TCP will usually continue to transfer packets, but possibly at a highly reduced transmission rate, and possibly with loss of usable bandwidth due to retransmissions.
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