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3560G Output drops

matthew.goli1
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Hello everyone,

I'm attempting to understand why a gig interface on our switch is consistently dropping packets outbound towards a server that's requesting a certain set of data off a file server on a 5 minute basis.  We have two servers that read the same data off another file server every 5 minutes and one interface is showing dropped frames and the other interface is not. 

GigabitEthernet0/38 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 0014.6ae8.0aa6 (bia 0014.6ae8.0aa6)
  Description: SERVER - S05IA01
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d09h
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 306000 bits/sec, 103 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 491000 bits/sec, 93 packets/sec
     17934745 packets input, 6283093363 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 2044 broadcasts (319 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 319 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     18824555 packets output, 8825035553 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 unknown protocol drops
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

GigabitEthernet0/39 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 0014.6ae8.0aa7 (bia 0014.6ae8.0aa7)
  Description: SERVER - S05IA02
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d09h
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 37851
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 28000 bits/sec, 36 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 385000 bits/sec, 47 packets/sec
     6570859 packets input, 755943945 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 2002 broadcasts (441 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 441 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     8382674 packets output, 5813729117 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 unknown protocol drops
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

Both switch ports are configured identically

P5_SW_MDF-3560G-48TS#sh run int gig0/38
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 457 bytes
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/38
 description SERVER - S05IA01
 switchport access vlan 2
 switchport mode access
 switchport port-security
 switchport port-security aging time 2
 switchport port-security violation restrict
 switchport port-security aging type inactivity
 srr-queue bandwidth share 1 25 70 5
 srr-queue bandwidth shape 3 0 0 0
 priority-queue out
 macro description cisco-desktop
 spanning-tree portfast
 spanning-tree bpduguard enable
end

P5_SW_MDF-3560G-48TS#sh run int gig0/39
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 457 bytes
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/39
 description SERVER - S05IA02
 switchport access vlan 2
 switchport mode access
 switchport port-security
 switchport port-security aging time 2
 switchport port-security violation restrict
 switchport port-security aging type inactivity
 srr-queue bandwidth share 1 25 70 5
 srr-queue bandwidth shape 3 0 0 0
 priority-queue out
 macro description cisco-desktop
 spanning-tree portfast
 spanning-tree bpduguard enable
end

P5_SW_MDF-3560G-48TS#show mls qos interface gig0/38 statistics
GigabitEthernet0/38 (All statistics are in packets)

  dscp: incoming 
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :    17950262            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  9 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 10 - 14 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 15 - 19 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 20 - 24 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 25 - 29 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 30 - 34 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 35 - 39 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 40 - 44 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 45 - 49 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 50 - 54 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 55 - 59 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 60 - 64 :           0            0            0            0 
  dscp: outgoing
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :    18634184            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  9 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 10 - 14 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 15 - 19 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 20 - 24 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 25 - 29 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 30 - 34 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 35 - 39 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 40 - 44 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 45 - 49 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 50 - 54 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 55 - 59 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 60 - 64 :           0            0            0            0 
  cos: incoming 
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :    17957142            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  7 :           0            0            0 
  cos: outgoing
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :    18786263            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  7 :           0            0            0 
  output queues enqueued:
 queue:    threshold1   threshold2   threshold3
-----------------------------------------------
 queue 0:           0           0           0
 queue 1:           0        7259       62973
 queue 2:           0           0           0
 queue 3:           0           0    18788143

  output queues dropped:
 queue:    threshold1   threshold2   threshold3
-----------------------------------------------
 queue 0:           0           0           0
 queue 1:           0           0           0
 queue 2:           0           0           0
 queue 3:           0           0           0

Policer: Inprofile:            0 OutofProfile:            0

P5_SW_MDF-3560G-48TS#show mls qos interface gig0/39 statistics
GigabitEthernet0/39 (All statistics are in packets)

  dscp: incoming 
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :     6579229            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  9 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 10 - 14 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 15 - 19 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 20 - 24 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 25 - 29 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 30 - 34 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 35 - 39 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 40 - 44 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 45 - 49 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 50 - 54 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 55 - 59 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 60 - 64 :           0            0            0            0 
  dscp: outgoing
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :     8190742            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  9 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 10 - 14 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 15 - 19 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 20 - 24 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 25 - 29 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 30 - 34 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 35 - 39 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 40 - 44 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 45 - 49 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 50 - 54 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 55 - 59 :           0            0            0            0            0 
 60 - 64 :           0            0            0            0 
  cos: incoming 
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :     6583571            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  7 :           0            0            0 
  cos: outgoing
-------------------------------

  0 -  4 :     8337920            0            0            0            0 
  5 -  7 :           0            0            0 
  output queues enqueued:
 queue:    threshold1   threshold2   threshold3
-----------------------------------------------
 queue 0:           0           0           0
 queue 1:           0        7065       61795
 queue 2:           0           0           0
 queue 3:           0           0     8339644

  output queues dropped:
 queue:    threshold1   threshold2   threshold3
-----------------------------------------------
 queue 0:           0           0           0
 queue 1:           0           0           0
 queue 2:           0           0           0
 queue 3:           0           0       37889

Policer: Inprofile:            0 OutofProfile:            0

As we can see from the output that the drops are happening in queue 3, threshold 3.  from the output below

P5_SW_MDF-3560G-48TS#show mls qos maps dscp-output-q
   Dscp-outputq-threshold map:
     d1 :d2    0     1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9
     ------------------------------------------------------------
      0 :    04-03 04-03 04-03 04-03 04-03 04-03 04-03 04-03 04-01 04-02
      1 :    04-02 04-02 04-02 04-02 04-02 04-02 03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03
      2 :    03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03
      3 :    02-03 02-03 03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03 03-03
      4 :    01-03 01-03 01-03 01-03 01-03 01-03 01-03 01-03 02-03 02-03
      5 :    02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03
      6 :    02-03 02-03 02-03 02-03

That traffic is dscp 0 thru dscp 7.

what are my next steps to investigating why this switch is dropping that traffic?

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pwwiddicombe
Level 4
Level 4

Have you verified the server-side NIC settings; are both of them set up the same ?

From the config above, both servers should be set up to auto-negotiate.

If they ARE the same, then swap ports 38 and 39 and see if the problem remains with the same port, or to the same server.

we swapped the servers between ports 38 and 39 and the issue followed the server to port 38.

We switched the servers back to their designated ports 38 and 39. We also replaced the patch cables and the output drops are continuing to slowly increase.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

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Then it sounds like a usage issue.

Your best bet to remediate is probably, as already suggested, some buffer tuning.

However, the 3560G is probably like a 3750G, which provides 2 MB buffer RAM per 24 copper ports and for the uplink ports.  Moving your busy server, to another buffer RAM, might help too.

NB: On a 3750, with buffer tuning, I had two SAN hosts go from multiple drops a seconds to a few drops a days.

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Although configs look alike, if we compare output stats:

18,824,555 packets output, 8,825,035,553 bytes, 0 underruns

 8,382,674 packets output, 5,813,729,117 bytes, 0 underruns

We see for the same period, 1d09h, egress volume was more for one port than the other.

Surprisingly, it's the busier port, that doesn't show drops.

However, the less busy port shows more queued packets, for Q3.

Traffic behavior might be different enough that one port enqueues and drops more packets, or perhaps the busier port obtains buffers before the other port, and so the other port runs short.

I.e. buffer tuning might make a difference.

Keep in mind, that 3K switches are not really designed for really busy usage, they're most suitable for user edge devices.  Again, though, sometimes buffer tuning can help.

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