3850 license question

[Jagvella]

Hi guys,

I have a stack of 4 x 3850s running 3.6.10E. License is permanent IP Services.

Question is, if I upgrade to 16.12.10, what will happen to this RTU license? I need to use object groups and this version does not seem to support that function. I do not want to use Smart licensing as this is on loan from vendor until new 9300s arrive.

Switch# Role Mac Address Priority Version State 
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*1 Active 0c11.aaaa.xxxx 15 V06 Ready 
2 Standby 0c11.aaaa.xxxx 14 0 Ready 
3 Member 00c1.aaaa.xxxx 13 V07 Ready 
4 Member 00c1.aaaa.xxxx 12 V07 Ready 

Switch Ports Model SW Version SW Image Mode 
------ ----- ----- ---------- ---------- ---- 
* 1 56 WS-C3850-48T 03.06.10E cat3k_caa-universalk9 INSTALL
2 56 WS-C3850-48T 03.06.10E cat3k_caa-universalk9 INSTALL
3 56 WS-C3850-48P 03.06.10E cat3k_caa-universalk9 INSTALL
4 56 WS-C3850-48P 03.06.10E cat3k_caa-universalk9 INSTALL

Slot# License name Type Count Period left 
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1 ipservices permanent N/A Lifetime
1 ipbase permanent N/A Lifetime

License Level on Reboot: ipservices


Slot# License name Type Count Period left 
----------------------------------------------------------
2 ipservices permanent N/A Lifetime
2 ipbase permanent N/A Lifetime

License Level on Reboot: ipservices


Slot# License name Type Count Period left 
----------------------------------------------------------
3 ipservices permanent N/A Lifetime

License Level on Reboot: ipservices


Slot# License name Type Count Period left 
----------------------------------------------------------
4 ipservices permanent N/A Lifetime

License Level on Reboot: ipservices

 

[balaji.bandi]

as per the mentioned situation, i would stick to 3.X version which supports object groups. (if not supported on 3.x version - been a long time worked on cat 3850) - I am sure some version support object groups some not... or move 16.12 with smart license (its just a compliance issue) you can use 90days officially with out registering and also works later too.

but you can use that features until cat 9300 arrives.

[Jagvella]

Hi Balaji, 

No, as mentioned, object-group is not supported in that version. I need to have that as there are tons of ACLs with grouping needed for many interfaces for a new implementation project. So wondering what will happen to existing permanent license.

[balaji.bandi]

So wondering what will happen to existing permanent license.

you can convert to PAK to a smart License - it is easy to process and the cisco license team can help you with that.

[Leo Laohoo]

Do not, under any circumstances, upgrade to 16.X.X. 

3.6.X is extremely stable.  Stay on it.

[Jagvella]

@Leo Laohoo , do you know which version in 3.6.x can support network object-groups?

[Leo Laohoo]

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@Jagvella wrote:
object-group is not supported in that version. I need to have that as there are tons of ACLs with grouping needed for many interfaces for a new implementation project.

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Please re-think the design.  

3650/3850 does not have the CPU nor the memory to handle a long lists of ACL.  

Even if the switch loads a 16.X.X that can support Object-Group, the switch/stack will need to be reloaded every 2 to 4 months because 16.X.X will memory-leak in the control-plane.  

[Jagvella]

@Leo Laohoo any version in 3.x.x can support object-group?