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High CPU Utilization - C4506 for Cat4k Mgmt LoPri

Ashfaq Habeeb
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Hi guys,

We have issue with the Core Switch C4506 utilization. It had increased recently and going till 75%. Based on the below commands, I see the following outputs. I have tried to unmanage device using SNMP and checked, still no help. 

I know the firmware upgrade is required, but since it is out of support and service, really need help to solve it till we replace it with another switch. 

Appreciate any help and feedback. Thanks! 

GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1#sh processes cpu
GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1#sh processes cpu | ex 0.00%
CPU utilization for five seconds: 69%/2%; one minute: 70%; five minutes: 69%
PID Runtime(ms) Invoked uSecs 5Sec 1Min 5Min TTY Process
13 12455800 58500628 212 0.07% 0.09% 0.08% 0 ARP Input
37 14011452 14604469 959 0.07% 0.08% 0.07% 0 IDB Work
48 459196464 742490661 618 3.35% 3.41% 3.42% 0 Cat4k Mgmt HiPri
49 37816980241030024260 3671 57.19% 58.28% 58.10% 0 Cat4k Mgmt LoPri
90 14088604 20241873 696 0.47% 0.30% 0.29% 0 CDP Protocol
97 58134468 611926257 95 0.55% 0.51% 0.51% 0 IP Input
103 140232952 341325293 410 3.03% 2.76% 2.75% 0 Spanning Tree
136 1516432 22963516 66 0.07% 0.03% 0.02% 0 CEF: IPv4 proces
197 40461688 859430947 47 1.19% 1.25% 1.25% 0 HSRP Common
200 2321160 107448412 21 0.07% 0.05% 0.05% 0 LACP Protocol
GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1#sh plat
GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1#sh platform health
%CPU %CPU RunTimeMax Priority Average %CPU Total
Target Actual Target Actual Fg Bg 5Sec Min Hour CPU
GalChassisVp-review 3.00 0.11 10 45 100 500 0 0 0 221:04
S2w-JobEventSchedule 10.00 0.44 10 7 100 500 0 0 0 1454:35
Stub-JobEventSchedul 10.00 0.65 10 30 100 500 0 0 0 1058:47
Lj-poll 1.00 0.01 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 50:22
StatValueMan Update 1.00 0.01 1 0 100 500 0 0 0 95:10
Pim-review 0.10 0.01 1 0 100 500 0 0 0 12:52
Ebm-host-review 1.00 0.00 8 4 100 500 0 0 0 57:28
Ebm-host-util-review 1.00 0.00 10 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:25
Ebm-port-review 0.10 0.00 1 0 100 500 0 0 0 1:03
Protocol-aging-revie 0.20 0.00 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:03
EbmHostRedundancyMan 2.00 0.00 20 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
Acl-Flattener 1.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
IrmFibThrottler Thro 2.00 0.00 7 2 100 500 0 0 0 23:13
GalChassisVp Ondeman 2.00 0.00 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
KxAclPathMan create/ 1.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 0:12
KxAclPathMan update 2.00 0.00 10 26 100 500 0 0 0 0:13
KxAclPathMan reprogr 1.00 0.00 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
GalK5TatooineStatsMa 0.70 0.01 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 51:54
MOL FastDropReview 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:01
RkiosL3PortMan AclFe 2.00 0.00 15 2 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3FlcMan FwdEntry 2.00 0.03 15 4 100 500 0 0 0 164:16
FwdEntry Zombie Revi 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3FlcMan Cam Shuff 4.00 0.00 25 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3Unciast IFE Revi 2.00 0.03 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 213:39
K5L3UnicastRpf IFE R 2.00 0.03 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 210:20
K5L3Unicast Fwd Entr 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3McastMan IrmMfib 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3McastMan ImeSync 2.00 0.00 15 9 100 500 0 0 0 0:38
K5L3Unicast Fwd Entr 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3Unicast Adj Grou 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L3Unicast Adj Chan 2.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:07
K5L3Unicast Adj Tabl 2.00 0.00 15 7 100 500 0 0 0 676:51
K5L3AdjStatsMan Revi 2.00 0.14 10 8 100 500 0 0 0 608:04
K5L3McastMan RetSync 1.00 0.00 8 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5FlcHitMan review 2.00 0.00 5 2 100 500 0 0 0 349:07
K5PortMan Regular Re 2.00 0.33 15 10 100 500 0 0 0 806:03
K5PortMan Ondemand L 3.00 0.52 30 10 100 500 0 0 0 1013:16
K5PortMan Stats Revi 2.00 0.01 15 1 100 500 0 0 0 89:47
K5PortMan Tx Queue R 3.00 0.00 15 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5L2 Vlan Table Revi 2.00 0.00 12 8 100 500 0 0 0 19:08
K5 L2 Aging Table Re 2.00 0.19 20 4 100 500 0 0 0 299:55
K5 L2 Unicast Addres 2.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 0:14
K5 L2 Multicast Addr 2.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 0:51
K5 L2 Hardware Addre 2.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 646:40
K5RetStatsMan Review 2.00 0.00 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5CpuMan Review 30.00 76.67 30 199 100 500 118 123 81 80482:38
K5ForerunnerPacketMa 1.50 1.69 4 0 100 500 1 1 1 3123:20
K5ForerunnerPacketMa 0.70 0.24 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 539:00
K5QosDhmMan Rate DBL 2.00 0.00 7 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5QosPolicerStatsMan 1.00 0.00 10 0 100 500 0 0 0 10:11
K5VlanStatsReview 2.00 0.96 10 4 100 500 0 1 0 1955:06
K5AclMan-labeledFlat 1.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5AclLabelMan-punted 1.00 0.00 10 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:04
K5AclCamMan stale en 1.00 0.00 10 5 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
K5AclCamStatsMan hw 3.00 0.64 10 8 100 500 0 0 0 949:53
VSI DMA Local Jawa R 1.00 0.08 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 154:14
VSI DMA Darkside Rev 1.00 0.00 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
VSI DMA Slot-02 Revi 1.00 0.00 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
VSI DMA Slot-03 Revi 1.00 0.00 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
VSI DMA Slot-04 Revi 1.00 0.24 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 586:22
VSI DMA Slot-05 Revi 1.00 0.00 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
VSI DMA Slot-06 Revi 1.00 0.00 6 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
GbmHostTable Review 2.00 0.00 8 0 100 500 0 0 0 3:22
GbmHostTableUtilizat 2.00 0.00 8 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
GbmHostTableAging Re 2.00 0.00 8 0 100 500 0 0 0 5:03
RkiosPortMan Port Re 2.00 0.14 12 8 100 500 0 0 0 345:33
Rkios Module State R 4.00 0.01 40 4 100 500 0 0 0 54:10
Rkios Online Diag Re 4.00 0.01 40 0 100 500 0 0 0 51:40
RkiosIpPbr IrmPort R 2.00 0.00 10 1 100 500 0 0 0 63:17
RkiosIpWccp IrmWccpW 2.00 0.00 10 0 100 500 0 0 0 10:08
RkiosAclMan Review 3.00 0.04 30 1 100 500 0 0 0 103:03
MatMan Review 0.50 0.00 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
LocalJawaVsiMan VsiR 0.20 0.00 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
QuackMan( 254 ) Revi 4.00 0.00 20 4 100 500 0 0 0 0:02
GlmBridgeMan(0) revi 0.50 0.01 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 20:59
Stub periodic global 0.50 0.00 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:27
Stub ondemand global 0.50 0.00 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
Xgstub Stats Review 0.50 0.09 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 212:23
EpmPortGroup(0) stat 0.50 0.02 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 18:37
EpmPortGroup(0) PimE 0.50 0.00 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
EpmPortGroup(0) on d 0.50 0.00 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
X2Controller(0) 0.50 0.00 0 0 100 500 0 0 0 1:46
PluggableLinecard(0) 0.50 0.00 1 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
PluggableLinecard(0) 0.50 0.00 1 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
EpmPluggableGroup(0) 0.50 0.00 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:53
QuackMan( 0 ) Review 4.00 0.00 20 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
EthHoleLinecardMan(2 2.00 0.22 10 6 100 500 0 0 0 771:47
EthHoleLinecardMan(3 2.00 0.23 10 6 100 500 0 0 0 772:18
GlmBridgeMan(3) revi 0.50 0.00 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 21:04
Stub periodic global 0.50 0.00 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:26
Stub ondemand global 0.50 0.00 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:08
Xgstub Stats Review 0.50 0.10 5 0 100 500 0 0 0 234:36
EthPhyControllerMan( 0.40 0.00 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 3:16
EthPhyControllerMan( 0.20 0.00 2 2 100 500 0 0 0 1:33
EpmPortGroup(3) stat 0.50 0.01 2 0 100 500 0 0 0 48:22
EpmPortGroup(3) PimE 0.50 0.00 4 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
EpmPortGroup(3) on d 0.50 0.00 4 21 100 500 0 0 0 0:03
QuackMan( 3 ) Review 4.00 0.00 20 0 100 500 0 0 0 0:00
-------------
%CPU Totals 195.59 84.09

Allocation ceiling Current allocation
------------------ ------------------
kbytes % in use kbytes % in use

Linecard 1's Store 600.00 34% 205.46 100%
Linecard 2's Store 600.00 5% 33.32 100%
Linecard 3's Store 600.00 5% 33.32 100%
Linecard 4's Store 600.00 89% 535.51 100%
Linecard 5's Store 600.00 29% 175.57 100%
Linecard 6's Store 600.00 29% 175.57 100%
TSM objects ------------------ ------------------
PacketInfoItem 859.37 0% 14.65 0%
VbufNodes2400 80.50 0% 0.00 0%
VbufNodes1600 55.50 0% 12.14 0%
VbufNodes400 288.00 1% 10.68 31%
VbufNodes64 60.00 2% 3.28 42%
VbufNodes4200 68.37 12% 8.54 100%
PacketBufRaw 184.29 100% 184.29 100%
PacketBufRaw 4644.56 100% 4644.56 100%
RkiosSysPacketBuf 250.00 0% 1.12 30%
Packet 2322.42 0% 0.31 0%
IndexCache 800.78 0% 0.00 0%
K5AclOpDescNode 10752.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5AclRetMapEntryNode 21.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5AclLabelListNode 768.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5AclIpv6PackedAddrH 1024.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5AdjGroups 960.00 0% 8.53 96%
K5L3FlcEntryAvlTree2 12902.39 0% 41.43 75%
IrmFibUnicastRpfList 5120.00 0% 9.94 97%
K5L3FwdEntrys 26000.00 0% 86.32 75%
K5L3FwdEntryAvlTree2 12480.00 0% 20.85 75%
K5L3FwdTreeEntrys 21840.00 0% 73.00 75%
K5L3FwdTreeEntryAvlT 49920.00 0% 20.71 75%
IrmMfibFastDropFlowM 576.00 0% 3.16 0%
K5QosTxQueSelTableBl 14.00 2% 0.38 100%
K5QosPolicerBlockNod 2.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5QosPolicerBlockMem 69.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5QosPolicerMemAlloc 448.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5QosFeatureInfoList 1536.00 0% 0.09 0%
K5QosLabelToFeatureE 1792.00 0% 0.05 0%
K5QosPathFeatureInfo 384.00 0% 0.01 0%
K5CpuPacketInfoItem 859.37 0% 0.00 0%
K5TxPacketInfo 256.00 0% 5.34 0%
MatEntrys 7680.00 0% 21.56 78%
MatEntryTableIterato 1.00 0% 0.03 0%
RkiosAclMan NamedGal 43.75 0% 0.01 100%
LpipAceListNode 192.00 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios Acl VlanMaps 128.00 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios Acl VlanMapEnt 859.37 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios EVC EFPs 1280.00 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios GBM BridgeDoma 256.00 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios GBM PseudoPort 768.00 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios QoS PolicyMaps 356.32 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios QoS ClassMaps 896.00 0% 0.02 100%
AclToIosFilterMapLis 384.00 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios QoS Policers 456.00 0% 0.00 0%
RkiosTableMap Galios 3.00 0% 0.00 0%
PimPhyports 1015.62 25% 254.92 100%
PimPorts 906.25 31% 285.46 100%
PimModules 160.00 2% 3.75 100%
PimSlots 5.00 2% 0.11 100%
PimChassis 37.62 6% 2.35 100%
PimQuack 0.35 10% 0.03 100%
EbmVlans 4992.00 1% 64.59 100%
EbmVlanGroupEntrys 1920.00 0% 4.45 94%
EbmPorts 312.00 30% 94.75 100%
EbmPortHostEntrys 384.00 0% 0.00 0%
EbmIeNodes 540.00 1% 5.80 100%
EbmPortVlanAclFeatur 2176.00 0% 0.00 0%
Ebm PV Maps 160.00 0% 0.00 0%
EbmSortedHostTableIt 1.75 0% 0.05 0%
EbmSortedGroupTableI 1.75 0% 0.05 0%
EbmHostRedundancyMan 1082.81 0% 0.00 0%
IrmVrfs 315.00 0% 1.23 100%
IrmFibLoadBalances 1152.00 0% 0.14 100%
IrmFibAdjs 1920.00 0% 17.77 96%
IrmPortEtherAddrEntr 500.00 0% 0.68 77%
IrmFibEntries 12288.00 0% 40.64 73%
IrmMfibEntryMemMan 13312.00 0% 7.51 44%
IrmWccpMemMan 34.03 0% 0.00 0%
AclOp 2048.00 0% 0.15 80%
AclOpAceSet 2559.96 0% 0.50 92%
AclClassifier 1280.00 0% 1.75 100%
AclFeature 2570.04 0% 3.11 100%
Acl 1408.00 0% 1.93 100%
Ace24 9215.85 0% 10.82 100%
Ace48 15359.76 0% 0.11 100%
AceActionDescStorage 1023.98 0% 0.00 0%
AclListNode 256.00 0% 0.35 100%
AceListNode 25600.00 0% 2.82 56%
AclClassifierActionL 1152.00 0% 1.44 100%
AclLayerFeatureListN 512.00 0% 0.13 58%
AclClassifierListNod 256.00 0% 0.00 0%
TableMapMan NameToTa 27.00 0% 0.00 0%
TableMapAllocator 116.00 0% 0.00 0%
FlatAcl 512.00 0% 0.18 50%
FlatAce24 10752.00 0% 29.44 56%
FlatAce48 16896.00 0% 0.00 0%
FlatAceActionListNod 281600.00 0% 15.42 56%
FlatAclOpSetStorage 3072.00 0% 0.00 0%
FlatAclCacheNode 4224.00 0% 0.77 83%
FlatAclListNode 256.00 0% 0.04 16%
QosFeatureClassifier 135.26 0% 0.00 0%
QosFeatureClassifier 2367.14 0% 0.01 0%
QosClassifierActionL 896.00 0% 0.02 0%
QosPortVlanAclFeatur 1152.00 0% 0.00 0%
QosEvcEfpAllocator 4352.00 0% 0.00 0%
QoS Policers 5624.00 0% 0.00 0%
MOL EVC EFPs 11264.00 0% 0.00 0%
EvcEfpEncapVlanRange 1024.00 0% 0.00 0%
MOL GBM BridgeDomain 2304.00 0% 0.00 0%
MOL GBM PseudoPort 6144.00 0% 0.00 0%
GbmSortedHostTableIt 1.62 0% 0.00 0%
GbmBridgeDomainHostE 16384.00 0% 0.00 0%
KxAclPath 1024.00 0% 0.18 83%
KxAclPathListNode 384.00 0% 0.00 0%
KxAclConstPathListNo 384.00 0% 0.09 41%
EpmPortGroups 0.71 28% 0.20 100%
EpmPortMans 59.82 21% 13.07 100%
KxAclLabeledFlatAcl 3584.00 0% 0.65 83%
KxAclLabeledFlatAclE 3072.00 0% 0.56 83%
EbmVlanHostEntrys 3437.50 0% 35.62 85%
VsiBuffers3072 300.00 0% 3.00 0%
VsiBuffers1024 1500.00 6% 100.00 100%
VsiBuffers128 250.00 0% 6.00 0%
VsiBuffers16 31.25 0% 4.76 4%
VsiTransactions(Max 123.04 0% 6.32 14%
VsiTransactions(Max 159.96 4% 15.84 50%
VsiTransactions(Max 15.42 0% 0.18 0%
VsiTransactions(Max 5.90 0% 0.00 0%
VsiTransactions(Max 4.83 0% 0.00 0%
VsiTransactionRespon 17.44 2% 0.87 53%
VsiS2wRequestMans 54.68 0% 1.48 0%
VsiVliRequestMans 147.65 5% 10.61 74%
VsiMdio22RequestMans 273.43 0% 22.50 0%
VsiMdio45RequestMans 30.07 0% 0.17 0%
VsiJtagRequestMans 5.46 0% 0.00 0%
GalGbicEntrys 11.57 0% 0.09 100%
EbmVlanBroadcastFloo 1408.00 1% 18.21 100%
Event Nodes 128.00 0% 1.25 5%
Event Nodes 128.00 1% 10.21 20%
RkisoIpPbrRouteMaps 97.65 0% 0.00 0%
Rkios QoS EVC EFPs 768.00 0% 0.00 0%
K5AclLabelSignatureM 10240.00 0% 1.87 83%
K5AclLabelMapEntryPa 1408.00 0% 0.00 0%
TableMapMan NameToTa 27.00 0% 0.00 0%
TableMapAllocator 116.00 0% 0.00 0%
InpTosMarkTbl BlockA 1.75 12% 0.21 100%
InpCosMarkTbl BlockA 1.75 12% 0.21 100%
InpExpMarkTbl BlockA 1.75 12% 0.21 100%
OutTosMarkTbl BlockA 1.75 12% 0.21 100%
OutCosMarkTbl BlockA 1.75 12% 0.21 100%
OutExpMarkTbl BlockA 1.75 12% 0.21 100%
CommandTables 48.00 14% 6.75 100%
------------------ ------------------
TSM totals 675457.83 0% 6286.48 96%

GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1#sh mac address-table aging-time
Vlan Aging Time Configured Aging Time
---- ---------- ---------------------
Global Vlan Admin Age: 300
1 300 300
2 300 300
3 300 300
4 300 300
5 300 300
6 300 300
7 300 300
16 300 300
17 300 300
18 300 300
19 300 300
20 300 300
21 300 300
22 300 300
23 300 300
24 300 300
25 300 300
30 300 300
31 300 300
32 300 300
33 300 300
34 300 300
35 300 300
36 300 300
37 300 300
48 300 300
49 300 300
50 300 300
51 300 300
52 300 300
60 300 300
61 300 300
62 300 300
70 300 300
99 300 300
100 300 300
107 300 300
130 300 300
140 300 300
150 300 300
151 300 300
152 300 300
153 300 300
154 300 300
155 300 300
156 300 300
160 300 300
999 300 300
1002 300 300
1003 300 300
1004 300 300
1005 300 300

GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1#sh version
Cisco IOS Software, Catalyst 4500 L3 Switch Software (cat4500e-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(46)SG, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 27-Jun-08 19:07 by prod_rel_team
Image text-base: 0x10000000, data-base: 0x124746C0

ROM: 12.2(40r)SG1
Darkside Revision 4, Jawa Revision 14, Tatooine Revision 140, Forerunner Revision 1.74

GRP_SALWA-CORE-SW1 uptime is 24 weeks, 1 day, 48 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is "bootflash:cat4500e-entservicesk9-mz.122-46.SG.bin"


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cisco WS-C4506-E (MPC8548) processor (revision 6) with 524288K bytes of memory.

MPC8548 CPU at 1.33GHz, Supervisor 6-E
Last reset from PowerUp
37 Virtual Ethernet interfaces
112 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
2 Ten Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
511K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.

Configuration register is 0x2101

1 Accepted Solution

Accepted Solutions

Mark Malone
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

Hi yes as you said that software is 9 years old alright could be triggering a bug but if not there are a few guides online that may help with this issue , this one has a few steps to narrow down whats causing the spiking might be worth running through

https://www.theroutingtable.com/cisco-4500-high-cpu-cat4k-mgmt-lopri/

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Mark Malone
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

Hi yes as you said that software is 9 years old alright could be triggering a bug but if not there are a few guides online that may help with this issue , this one has a few steps to narrow down whats causing the spiking might be worth running through

https://www.theroutingtable.com/cisco-4500-high-cpu-cat4k-mgmt-lopri/

Hii Mark,

Thanks for your reply, and I apologize for late reply.

I have found that there were monitor sessions running on the Core Switch with VLANs as a source. This is for Call recording - and they are spanning voice vlans to record and present to recording server vlan. Whenever it was calls peak time, the CPU would hit. 

I saw there was this caveat for above mentioned IOS level and 4506 switch for monitor session that it would peak the CPU and it requires a bug fix. 

I suggested this, but since the switch is end of sale, and since the partner do not have SUP module available, nobody wants to touch it. The plan to upgrade Network infrastructure had been initiated. 

Sorry for not sharing the bug number here, I could not find it right now. 

Had a busy few days. Thanks again.! 

Regards,

Ashfaq

Thanks Ashfaq for the update always good to know what end problem was
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