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Ping drops while a switch gets added to the switch stack

grapevine
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I see ping drops while a switch gets added to the switch stack

is this expected, is there a away to fix it

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Cristian Matei
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Hi,

  I'm guessing this could be relate to your STP configuration. Can you paste the config of the switch port where the PC you're sending the PING from is attached to? Can you paste the output of "show spanning-tree summary" and "show spanning-tree interface XYZ", where XYZ is the interface your PC is attached to?

Thanks,

Cristian.

Joseph W. Doherty
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What kind of stack?  (I would presume classical StackWise, correct?)

Using what specific stack members?

Running what specific IOS?

How many stack members?

If classical StackWise, full dual ring to begin with? Were all phases, of breaking and making individual ring connections tested for ping results?

Any specific HA configuration commands bring used?

Are these ping through the stack or is the stack a source and/or destination of these pings?

3 IE 9320 switches in a full stack ring running 15.12.07. It is a failover test that we do, when one of the switches is removed and added to the stack we should see like one or two ping drops.

Any specific HA configuration commands bring used? I guess no

Switch management is not lost but the connected devices face ping drops when switch member is added to the stack

 

Ah, that information is a tiny bit useful.

I originally asked so many questions because you asked whether ping drops might be normal.  Yes, they might be, the answer is likely an "it depends".

You also asked if such ping drops might be "fixed", that's a maybe.  Much depends on the cause of the ping drops.

On the original 3750 stack architecture, the stack master, by default, provided its interfaces MACs, which would change if the stack master failed and another stack master took over.  This was disruptive.  However, there was an option to retain the original stack MAC when a replacement stack master took over.  This mitigated much if not all the issues caused when the stack MAC changed 

Then there were optional NSF settings to mitigate L3 issues too.

Besides my original unanswered questions, the information you provided invoke even more.  However, if you're unable/unwilling to provide requested information, it may be difficult to obtain answers other than maybe.

If you are changing the configuration of the stack (adding a switch, and I assume also if you remove a switch from the stack) then I assume the remaining stack members have to logically restart to implement the change. So I am not surprised that there is some impact on connectivity. And I doubt that there is anything you can do about it (other than scheduling these changes at times that the network is least active. 

HTH

Rick


@Richard Burts wrote:

If you are changing the configuration of the stack (adding a switch, and I assume also if you remove a switch from the stack) then I assume the remaining stack members have to logically restart to implement the change. So I am not surprised that there is some impact on connectivity.


Although my stack experience is (very much now) dated, I recall (?), at least on a 3750 stack, adding a "new" stack member (without any active ports), was hitless.  However, dealing with a failed stacked member, and replacing it, is often a quite different in its impact because the original stack member, even if not the stack master, may have active edge port connections.  Those going off-line or coming on-line, may cause a network hit.  Consider, if rather than a port-channel for redundancy, we have multiple stack member connections providing a L2 loop, managed by STP.  Then, as @Cristian Matei initially suggested, we might have a STP convergence interruption.

BTW, just did a quick look at the series, which touts High Availability as a feature; including its HSR (High-availability Seamless Redundancy).  "Traditional" stacking appears to be a feature too, see Stacking and High Availability Configuration Guide, Cisco Catalyst IE9300 Rugged Series Switches (ha, even the persistent stack MAC feature is provided).

Unfortunately, I have no hands-on experience with IE switches, which, do seem to be a bit different from Cisco Catalyst switches.

Again, whether your described ping loss is "normal" and whether it might be mitigated, are unknown answers to me.