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Token Ring

stephen.stack
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Hi Forum,

I am getting some Cisco 2612 routers this week for a home lab. I believe that these have Token ring interfaces.

I am wondering firstly if i can assign IP address to these interfaces and use them in my routing excerices.

Also can i configure the Token Ring interfaces back to back, for the purpose of simulating WAN links. Just to watch routing updates etc...

Any sample configs or explainations are greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Stephen

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The 8238 should work just fine.

Good Luck, Happy New Year!

Scott

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pciaccio
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Level 4

Yes you can assign IP addresses to the Token ring Interfaces.Yes you can assign IPs as back to back.You can use the interfaces just like an ethernet interface. Just keep in mind that you need a Token Ring to wire them upor you can make a crossover Token Ring cable. The pinout is 1,2 and 4,5. Also note that the default MTU for Token Ring is 4096.You also need to assign the Token Ring a speed; either 4 Meg or 16 Meg. Good Luck...Please rate....

scottmac
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Level 10

Yes, you can assign addresses to those interfaces .... however, unless the interface is up, it will have no effect.

No, you cannot connect Token-Ring back-to-Back (well, you can, but it doesn't work).

To use the TR interfaces, you'll need some flavor of Multi-Station Access Unit (MAU) and the correct cables for the type of MAU-to-router (router = DB9 female, I believe).

Token-Ring was designed to be self-powered; there are "phantom voltages" on the different pair to accomplish three different voltage levels to the (originally passive) MAU.

The 802.5 protocols are also very specific for testing before entering the ring ... back-to-back won't work because those tests can't pass without a MAU.

IBM and Synoptics both had some devices that needed a "Token-Ring Crossover" cable (aka "The Yellow Cable"), but it is not supported (and will not work) in a host-host configuration.

Fortunately, MAUs on eBay and other NetJunk sites are pretty cheap. A MAU might also be a TR switch.

IBM 8228 was the original (uses the goofy bi-gendered connector), Thomas Conrad also made some decent MAUs (many/most with RJ45-style connectors).

When you get the MAU, keep in mind that RI/RO (Ring In / Ring Out), expecially on RJ45-style ports, will need to be terminated in some form or fashion (some units have a switch to terminate the port).

Units that have the IBM Data Connector will self-terminate.

Make sure you use the right cable for the connectors you have (IBM DC/DB9 or DB9->RJ45). The RJ45-style connectors *probably* also have to be BALUNs, Shielded Twisted Pair (STP) is 150 ohm cable, UTP (i.e., Cat{anything}) is usually 100 ohm cable.

You may be able to fake the connection to bring up the interface on the router. Token-Ring uses pins 4&5, 3&6 ... essentially a loopback, but there wouldn't be much sense in it.

The IBM Data cable for Token-Ring will also work as a loopback.

Good Luck

Scott

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the detailed info. I think (having looked on ebay)(and at all the info on this post) that it is easier to buy an MAU. (is a token ring hub the same thing?)I found an IBM Nways 8238 cheap on ebay.

All i really want to do is make the most of the ports i have available to me on my 2612's.

If you could confirm for me Scott, will the IBM Nways 8238 work with my Cisco 2612 token ring ports (RJ45 on both router and IBM Hub)?

Thanks Again

Stephen

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The 8238 should work just fine.

Good Luck, Happy New Year!

Scott

Great,

Thanks Scott

happy new year to you also,

Stephen

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