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9100 series 2,4Ghz AP radio role assignment

aflbakker
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Hi,

It came to my notice that many 9100 series AP's (multple models) have put their 2,4Ghz radio in monitor mode. For a certain site I'm pretty sure that it will lead to coverage issues because too many AP's are in monitoring mode. Luckily it is not yet in PRD. (Please don't ask me to do a site survey )

Does anyone one has any experience in this ?  Is it just better to change the setting from auto to manual mode to client serving ?

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marce1000
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 - As far as I understand it , if it has redundant 2.4Ghz radios there will be a remaining radio servicing 2.4Ghz , 

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You said they're not in production. Does that mean there are existing APs still online alongside these new ones? If so, the situation may improve after the old ones are gone.

Either way, when swapping/installing new APs, it's best practice to do an RRM restart. This results in the controller making aggressive channel and Tx power changes, so it could be disruptive and best done during off hours.

9800:

ap dot11 24ghz rrm dca restart

ap dot11 5ghz rrm dca restart

ap dot11 6ghz rrm dca restart

8540:

config 802.11a channel global restart

config 802.11b channel global restart

I also have found 2.4 coverage issues due to too many 2.4 GHz radios going to monitor mode, and/or the 2.4 radios power up higher than the 5 GHz radios (typically you want it the other way around). There a few a few ways around this. You may need to improve the design (i.e. make sure AP locations are zigzagged and that there aren't too many of them too close together unnecessarily), you could change TPC in your RF profile to lower the maximum dBm the 2.4 GHz radio can broadcast on (which should theoretically allow more radios to stay client serving, but I haven't tried yet), manually set certain AP's 2.4 GHz radios to client serving and leave the rest on auto, or disable 2.4/5 GHz FRA entirely and monitor your 2.4 GHz channel utilization to make sure it's not too high due to channel overlap.

Yes, surveying is the best way to determine coverage, but you could also check each AP's Rx neighbors to see the RSSI that each AP sees the other at to help give you an idea how the signal is propagating from one AP to another.

 

The building is new so also they AP deployment.. the WLC itself is in use for multiple buildings.

In the past I think we also did FRA with the 3800's but put all the radios on client serving mode manually. I forgot the command but there was 1 command to keep the 2,4Ghz an 2,4Ghz radio. May be that is something we need to do here also, like one of the other comments also mentions.

Also could turn off FRA, would would then need to manually update the APs to tune down 2.4GHz

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Leo Laohoo
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IF the site (still!) has 2.4 Ghz wireless clients the question is not about "will lead to coverage issues" but, rather, why are there still 2.4 Ghz when the rest of the world has begrudgingly accepted 2.4 Ghz co-channel interference and moved on to 5.0 Ghz.

BYOD.... We are not in control over those cliets. Corporate SSID is mostly 5Ghz. and in future may be 6Ghz if we dare to turn it on

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what code running, do you manage using DNAC ?

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Rich R
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Read the FRA overview: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/technotes/8-3/b_RRM_White_Paper/fra.html
And as Haydn says turn off FRA if you want to keep all the radios enabled:
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-9/config-guide/b_wl_17_9_cg/m_vewlc_fra.html
Note that simply disabling FRA will not revert those already changed - you will need to use the

ap fra revert all auto

command to revert them to default.

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