10-08-2024 01:24 PM - edited 10-14-2024 07:52 AM
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What is it?
The Cisco Catalyst 9800 Series (C9800) is the next-generation wireless LAN controller from Cisco. It has been built from the ground up to support today's most demanding wireless networking requirements. They are designed with an open and programmable operating system to provide flexibility of management and automation. The platform is having built-in class features which can reduce your maintenance window downtime and at the same time it can provide the required resiliency and redundancy to your mission-critical wireless network.
Official Resources:
Regular Upgrade - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-12/config-guide/b_wl_17_12_cg/m_upgrade_9800cl.html
N+1 Hitless Upgrade - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/catalyst-9800-series-wireless-controllers/215550-hitless-software-upgrade-on-catalyst-980.html
ISSU Upgrade - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-12/config-guide/b_wl_17_12_cg/m_issu.html
High Availability - https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-6/deployment-guide/c9800-ha-sso-deployment-guide-rel-17-6.pdf
AP Image Predownload - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-12/config-guide/b_wl_17_12_cg/m_predwnld_image_ap_ewlc.html
Efficient Image Upgrade - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-12/config guide/b_wl_17_12_cg/m_eff_image_upgrade_ewlc.html
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10-15-2024 06:06 AM
How can i upgrade from 17.9.4a to 17.12.3 without corrupted images in remote access points with mtu lower than 1500?
10-15-2024 06:29 AM
@nikolas-pereira - How do you define => 'access points with mtu lower than 1500' ?
M.
10-15-2024 06:35 AM
Cisco have a official document talking about the Access Points 9120 (wave 2) and the risk of corruption in image download.
One of the topics talks about Access Points that pass in a wan link have more chance to corrupt if had the MTU lower than 1500 bytes.
take a look at this link ans search for: low CAPWAP MTU (less than 1485 bytes) - the lower the MTU, the higher the risk
10-15-2024 08:44 AM - edited 10-15-2024 08:48 AM
@nikolas-pereira >...that pass in a wan link have more chance to corrupt if had the MTU lower than 1500
- That is a more correct phrasing then 'access points with mtu lower than 1500'
Currently not applicable to your situation but also note that from 17.13.x and onwards more resiliency
has been built in to avoid AP image corruption when downloading over WAN links.
++ 17.13 has a complete corruption verification and prevention system
M.
10-15-2024 06:44 AM
If you are performing upgrade on a flex deployment with remote access points, it is always better to setup a syslog server under the AP Join profile and perform AP image predownload. In the syslog, you should looks for the logs "Image signature verification failure: -3". If you see something like this, it is confirmed that the AP has downloaded a corrupted image. You can push AP specific lightweight image to those failed APs through archive command. Refer - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/wireless-lan-controller-software/221869-safely-upgrade-access-points-avoiding-i.html. It talks about the AP join profile and the related configuration.
-- Saikat
10-15-2024 11:32 PM
9800 in HA ,my standby controller ports are showing down ,if they are showing down how will standby controller check the gateway reachability?
10-16-2024 01:59 AM
@govardhan443 : - I think the question comes down to ; do I currently have a valid (hot) standby controller ?
You may use these commands to validate :
WLC (primary) # test wireless redundancy rping
show chassis
show chassis detail
show chassis ha-status local
show chassis ha-status active
show chassis ha-status standby
show chassis rmi
show redundancy
show redundancy history
show redundancy switchover history
show tech wireless redundancy
show redundancy states
show redundancy | i ptime|Location|Current Software state|Switchovers
M.
10-16-2024 08:36 AM
In the 9800 HA, the Active and Standby unit operates as a single unit so the Standby unit is expected to have its physical interfaces in the down state while the Active is running the network. GW(gateway) Reachability is done independently from both Active & Standby via the RMI (Redundancy Management Interface), so although the physical interfaces of the Standby WLC will be DOWN(on the switch connecting to the standby will be UP), the SVI with the RMI IP address will stay up and that is used as the source when the gateway check is done.
If you see the working of the Default Gateway Check:
Default Gateway check is done by periodically sending Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP) ping to the gateway. Both the active and the standby controllers use the RMI IP as the source IP. These messages are sent at 1 second interval. If there are 8 consecutive failures in reaching the gateway, the controller will declare the gateway as non-reachable.
Refer page 27 in the HA deployment guide for more context: https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/17-1/deployment-guide/c9800-ha-sso-deployment-guide-rel-17-1.pdf
10-27-2024 09:53 PM
In the recent (17.12) version 9800 upgrades, we don't see the option to predownload the APs as one-shot. I think it does the iterative predownload automatically.
Is there any way to go for a one-shot AP image predownload both CLI and GUI ?
10-27-2024 10:08 PM
If I have understood your question correctly, I believe you are talking about the AP image predownload option 5/15/25/one shot options.
You don't get these options in regular upgrade. However if you are doing -
1. ISSU
2. N+1 hitless upgrade
3. Install APSP
You will get the option to choose the percentage.
Likewise if you are trying to do the predownload in one shot from CLI the command is "ap image predownload". You can customize it with site tag option if needed.
All the above mentioned details are valid in 17.12.x.
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