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05-19-2023 11:44 AM - edited 05-19-2023 12:31 PM
Hi Guys,
I have an AIR-AP1562I access point which was used in a 9800 WLC, so the software on this AP now is Capwap Catalyst software version 17.6.4.56. I would like to convert this AP back to AireOS software, I would like to use it as Mobility Express. I know how can I convert an AP from Catalyst Capwap to AireOS Mobility Express with the "ap-type mobility-express tftp..." command, but in catalyst software there is no similar command, there are only "ap-type capwap/workgroup-bridge" commands available.
I think an AireOS WLC could be used to convert it, but I don't have one at hand right now, maybe I can install a virtual one if there is no easier solution.
Is there a easier solution to this problem, or do I need an AireOS WLC to do this? I wondering maybe can I change the software in u-boot mode? I downloaded all software which I can access from Cisco support site (ap3g3-k9w8-tar images, AIR-AP1560-K9-ME-8-10-185-0.tar, AIR-AP1560-K9-ME-8-10-185-0.zip)
Thanks!
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05-20-2023 03:21 PM
Hello,
The commands should work in IOS-XE image, use this command below ensuring you specify the "/reload" option so it can reboot upon reception of the image from the server:
"archive download-sw /reload tftp://<IP ADDRESS HERE>/ap3g3-k9w8-tar.153-3.JK9.tar " .
I will recommend ensuring the AP can't reach the 9800 WLC while doing this process as it will try to join the WLC again etc
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05-19-2023 12:03 PM
You dont need WLC
take a look on this link
https://semfionetworks.com/blog/convert-a-cisco-capwap-ap-to-a-mobility-express-ap/
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05-19-2023 12:20 PM
As I wrote I start from this software:
AP Running Image : 17.6.4.56
Primary Boot Image : 17.6.4.56
Backup Boot Image : 0.0.0.0
Primary Boot Image Hash:
Backup Boot Image Hash:
1 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
2 802.11 Radios
Radio Driver version : 9.0.5.5-W8964
Radio FW version : 9.1.8.1
NSS FW version : 2.4.28
There is no "ap-type mobility-express" command, because it is a catalyst-based OS:
AP2C33.1112.3456#ap-type
capwap Switch to CAPWAP AP type
workgroup-bridge Switch to Workgroup Bridge(WGB) AP type
AP2C33.1112.3456#ap-type
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05-19-2023 12:34 PM
Sorry. what do you have after capwap option?
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05-19-2023 12:39 PM - edited 05-19-2023 12:40 PM
No problem. I checked, nothing is after capwap option:
AP2C33.1112.3456#ap-type capwap
<cr>
AP2C33.1112.3456#ap-type capwap
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05-19-2023 12:42 PM - edited 05-19-2023 12:42 PM
Oh, that´s weird. You have a capwap AP that can only convert to capwap AP. If you hit enter after ap-type capwap show anything good.? It just dont make sense.
Maybe someone from Cisco can show up here and clarify it.
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05-20-2023 06:52 AM
Suggest to install https://software.cisco.com/download/home/286290657/type/286288051/release/15.3.3-JK9
Then do the conversion to ME https://software.cisco.com/download/home/286290657/type/286289839/release/8.10.185.0
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/mobility-express-aironet-access-points/215410-convert-capwap-1852-access-point-ap-to.html
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/access_point/mob_exp/810/user_guide/b_ME_User_Guide_810/getg_started.html#task_7588F4C009744AEFBB9EB754A713E390
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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's and TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's, Best Practices for 9800 WLC's and Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
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05-20-2023 02:19 PM
Hi Rich R!
Can you help me how to get the AP running IOS 17.6 software to update (downgrade) itself to 15.3.3-JK9?
I know the "debug capwap console cli" and "archive download tftp..." commands to do it under aireos software, but they don't work under IOS software.
AP2C33.1112.3456#debug capwap
client CAPWAP Client debugs
AP2C33.1112.3456#debug capwap console cli
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
AP2C33.1112.3456#archive download-sw
/no-reload No-reload after loading
/reload Reload after loading
capwap image download from wlc
AP2C33.1112.3456#archive download-sw tftp://172.20.0.2/ap3g3-k9w8-tar.153-3.JK9.tar
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
AP2C33.1112.3456#archive download-sw capwap
WORD Image file
Enter the image details in below format:
<ap image type ap3g3/ap1g4 etc>
AP2C33.1112.3456#archive download-sw capwap ap3g3
<cr>
AP2C33.1112.3456#archive download-sw capwap ap3g3
Thanks!
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05-20-2023 03:21 PM
Hello,
The commands should work in IOS-XE image, use this command below ensuring you specify the "/reload" option so it can reboot upon reception of the image from the server:
"archive download-sw /reload tftp://<IP ADDRESS HERE>/ap3g3-k9w8-tar.153-3.JK9.tar " .
I will recommend ensuring the AP can't reach the 9800 WLC while doing this process as it will try to join the WLC again etc
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05-22-2023 10:01 AM
Thank You very much, it was the solution, now Mobility Express software runs on my AP again.
Cisco AIR-AP1562I-E-K9 ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l) with 1028200/476936K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID XXXXXXXXXXX
AP Running Image : 8.10.185.0
Primary Boot Image : 8.10.185.0
Backup Boot Image : 8.10.185.0
Primary Boot Image Hash: 1ee6a148d71d3a2307a694620c261706c7cfb10b22bf90339fa8f4e61e7f1cabd0366a1750700bb4edb2c31ee9088cdd3039bb360abcfeedb0ff7015e1d16b81
Backup Boot Image Hash: e4e652bb006f06fd24cbca74b8bc86fea2ce2fac7888a6a6792e43b9fc3745dd917fadd5db85d57e75a13149725214ed2ff631e0413b49f577d177a5fbd9bc84
AP Image type : MOBILITY EXPRESS IMAGE
AP Configuration : MOBILITY EXPRESS CAPABLE
1 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
2 802.11 Radios
Radio Driver version : 9.0.5.5-W8964
Radio FW version : 9.1.8.1
NSS FW version : 2.4.30
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05-24-2023 08:03 AM
What exactly was the solution?
Earlier you said "they don't work under IOS software" and showed examples of the command not being accepted?
Please click Helpful if this post helped you and Select as Solution (drop down menu at top right of this reply) if this answered your query.
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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's and TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's, Best Practices for 9800 WLC's and Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
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06-26-2023 02:32 AM
In the examples I don't tried to use the /reload option, and that was the key for the solution.
I used this command to convert the AP back to AireOS software:
"archive download-sw /reload tftp://<IP ADDRESS HERE>/ap3g3-k9w8-tar.153-3.JK9.tar "
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05-20-2023 04:10 PM
Good question - don't think I've done it with a COS AP before and on a quick search I don't see an answer!
For the 91xx APs you can use this process but there is no recovery image for 1562!
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/catalyst-9120axi-access-point/217537-repairing-c9120-c9115-access-points-from.html
This might just be a question for TAC ...
Otherwise fire up a AireOS vWLC to get it done?
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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's and TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's, Best Practices for 9800 WLC's and Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
