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How 3700 determines Class 4 power pre-802.3at injector AIR-PWRINJ4=

chaseadam
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I purchased a few AIR-PWRINJ4= thinking they were 802.3at compliant, but they are indicated as "pre-compliance" in documentation. I am using them with 3700 units so they work as expected, but I got curious.

When connecting a compliant 802.3at PD, it will not negotiate Class 4 power. The AIR-PWRINJ4= contains the MAX5922 which is an 802.3af chip, but does support Class 4 power per the datasheet.

Class 3 to Class 4 Threshold ICLASS_3-4 31 33 35 m

From what I understand about 802.3af, there is no mechanism to communicate from the PSE to the PD which power Classes are supported (e.g. the PSE must support Class 0-3). The mechanism 802.3at uses to indicate Class 4 availability is a second handshake to enable Type 2, which is not present in 802.3af (or the MAX5922). Additionally, the standard specifically calls out "non-compliant" scenario I think we are in.

Class 4 can only be used by IEEE 802.3at (Type 2) devices, requiring valid Class 2 and Mark 2 currents for the power up stages. An 802.3af device presenting a class 4 current is considered non-compliant and, instead, will be treated as a Class 0 device. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet emphasis added

The Aironet 3700 series differentiates between 802.3af (up to Class 3) and this pre-compliant AIR-PWRINJ4= (and other compliant?) 802.3at (up to Class 4), but from what I can tell based on the MAX5922, it does not (have to) use the "second handshake" procedure. What trick is it using to determine if Class 4 is available when using the AIR-PWRINJ4= (non-compliant PSE which supports Class 4)?

%CDP_PD-4-POWER_OK: Full power - HIGH_POWER inline power source

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chaseadam
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Rich R
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You clearly know more about this than me but are you maybe overthinking it and it's just getting it from CDP?

I don't believe the CDP is involved because it is an injector which does not appear to contain anything which can communicate via the data-link layer. I have taken one apart and may publish some of my findings.

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