How many calls handle by CUBE gateway

[Sanjay Bishnoi]

Hello,

I have one Cube gateway with 25 license but here is the question...how many calls will be delivered or connected in this scenario.

Thanks 

[Jitender Bhandari]

Hi sanjay,

Licences for CUBE are honor based so they is not hard limit to the call, the only limit is the hardware limit for the platform you are using.

(Rate if it helps)

JB

[Jitender Bhandari]

Also see

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-border-element/data-sheet-c78-729692.html

Table 2.       Platform Support, Product Specifications, and Session Capacity and Session Types

Router Platform with Latest CUBE Versions	Flash Memory	DRAM	Maximum SIP Trunk Sessions**	Maximum NANOCUBE Sessions**
Cisco 881 ISR* Cisco 886V ISR* Cisco 887V ISR*	Fixed configuration	Fixed configuration	15	15
Cisco 888E ISR* Cisco 888 ISR*	Fixed configuration	Fixed configuration	25	25
Cisco 892F ISR*	Fixed configuration	Fixed configuration	50	50
Cisco 897VA ISR	Fixed configuration	512 MB upgradable to 1024 MB	50	50
SPIAD2901-8FXS/K9*	256 MB	512 MB	80	100
SPIAD2911-16FXS/K9* SPIAD2911-24FXS/K9*	256 MB	512 MB	100	125
Cisco 2901 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	100	-
Cisco 2911 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	200	-
Cisco 2921 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	400	-
Cisco 2951 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	600	-
Cisco 3925 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	800	-
Cisco 3945 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	950	-
Cisco 3925E ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	2,100	-
Cisco 3945E ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	2,500	-
Cisco 4321 ISR	256 MB	4 GB	100	-
Cisco 4331 ISR	256 MB	4 GB	500	-
Cisco 4351 ISR	256 MB	4 GB	1,000	-
Cisco 4431 ISR	256 MB	8 GB	3,000	-
Cisco 4451 ISR	Refer to data sheet	8 GB	6,000	-
Cisco ASR 1001	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	10,000	-
Cisco ASR 1001-X	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	12,000	-
Cisco ASR 1002-X	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	14,000	-
Cisco ASR 1004 and ASR 1006 (RP2)	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	16,000	-
Cisco CSR 1000V	Refer to data sheet	Refer to section below “More Details About Virtualized CUBE“	Refer to section below “More Details About Virtualized CUBE“

^* These Router platforms support NANOCUBE licensing (refer to section “CUBE Licensing Options”).

^** Maximum trunk sessions mentioned are for simple trunk calls (seven messages per leg) and it may vary depending on call and message rate.

^** Maximum sessions assumes that only the specified session is configured. Simultaneous use of other CUBE session types will reduce session maxima one for one.

(Rate if it helps)

JB

[Jitender Bhandari]

One more :-)

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/voice/cube/configuration/cube-book/voi-cube-licensing.html

Is CUBE Licensing enforced?

No, CUBE is a paper-based honor license (no file to install) that allows you to run the CUBE RTU (Right-to-Use) feature set after you have the UCK9 license installed.

JB

[Sanjay Bishnoi]

Hello jitender,

Thanks for update......

as per my understanding if we have 25 cube session license then 25 SIP trunk will be in progress.

but in my scenerion 60 calls will be travel in a time so once 25 calls are initiated then 25 SIP session will be occupied unless until RTP is generated.  once RTP is generated SIP session will be released...

please make me correct... 

[Jitender Bhandari]

Hi Sanjay,

Ques 1) as per my understanding if we have 25 cube session license then 25 SIP trunk will be in progress.

Ans 1) Above is not correct, 25 cube session license does not means 25 SIP trunk will be in progress. It is just an number, the real number you would be concerned about is "Maximum SIP Trunk Sessions" which i have explained above in my 2nd post.

Ques 2) but in my scenerion 60 calls will be travel in a time so once 25 calls are initiated then 25 SIP session will be occupied unless until RTP is generated.  once RTP is generated SIP session will be released..

Ans 2) No the way Cube work, see most to for detail regarding different platform.

(Rate if it helps)

JB

[Sanjay Bishnoi]

Hello Jitender,

thanks for update,

could you please give the answer for my second question as this is important to me.

once I took up the call then RTP will be generate...in this scenerio ..what happend CUBE will relaese SIP session to initiate  another call or still its occupied current SIP seesion ?

[Jitender Bhandari]

Hi Sanjay,

So once the call is established RTP would start flowing correct, but that does not mean it will free the SIP session. CUBE will only free the SIP session when the call is terminated.

Does that answer your question.

JB

[Sanjay Bishnoi]

Yes ...but I am little bit confusing that I have 25 Cube license and I have seen 35 calls active on my cube gateway .

Can you get it out ?

[Jitender Bhandari]

Hi Sanjay,

don't get confused with  25 Cube license is all i am trying to explain that is just a number, if you really want to know how many SIP session you CUBE will support look at the link below.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-border-element/data-sheet-c78-729692.html

Table 2.       Platform Support, Product Specifications, and Session Capacity and Session Types

Router Platform with Latest CUBE Versions	Flash Memory	DRAM	Maximum SIP Trunk Sessions**	Maximum NANOCUBE Sessions**
Cisco 881 ISR* Cisco 886V ISR* Cisco 887V ISR*	Fixed configuration	Fixed configuration	15	15
Cisco 888E ISR* Cisco 888 ISR*	Fixed configuration	Fixed configuration	25	25
Cisco 892F ISR*	Fixed configuration	Fixed configuration	50	50
Cisco 897VA ISR	Fixed configuration	512 MB upgradable to 1024 MB	50	50
SPIAD2901-8FXS/K9*	256 MB	512 MB	80	100
SPIAD2911-16FXS/K9* SPIAD2911-24FXS/K9*	256 MB	512 MB	100	125
Cisco 2901 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	100	-
Cisco 2911 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	200	-
Cisco 2921 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	400	-
Cisco 2951 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	600	-
Cisco 3925 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	800	-
Cisco 3945 ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	950	-
Cisco 3925E ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	2,100	-
Cisco 3945E ISR	256 MB	2.5 GB	2,500	-
Cisco 4321 ISR	256 MB	4 GB	100	-
Cisco 4331 ISR	256 MB	4 GB	500	-
Cisco 4351 ISR	256 MB	4 GB	1,000	-
Cisco 4431 ISR	256 MB	8 GB	3,000	-
Cisco 4451 ISR	Refer to data sheet	8 GB	6,000	-
Cisco ASR 1001	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	10,000	-
Cisco ASR 1001-X	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	12,000	-
Cisco ASR 1002-X	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	14,000	-
Cisco ASR 1004 and ASR 1006 (RP2)	Refer to data sheet	16 GB	16,000	-
Cisco CSR 1000V	Refer to data sheet	Refer to section below “More Details About Virtualized CUBE“	Refer to section below “More Details About Virtualized CUBE“

^* These Router platforms support NANOCUBE licensing (refer to section “CUBE Licensing Options”).

^** Maximum trunk sessions mentioned are for simple trunk calls (seven messages per leg) and it may vary depending on call and message rate.

^** Maximum sessions assumes that only the specified session is configured. Simultaneous use of other CUBE session types will reduce session maxima one for one.

(Rate if it helps)

JB

[Jitender Bhandari]

Hi Sanjay,

Do you understand now how SIP sessions are calculated or still have any doubts.

JB

[Sanjay Bishnoi]

Hi Jitende,

thanks for update

i have read your provided document & pls let me clear one thing..as 30-40 calls would be delivered on gateway at a time so 25 license enaugh to take all calls or i need to purchase more license

thanks

[Suresh Hudda]

You should buy more licenses. If you have 25 session lic then you should allow only 25 simultaneous calls on cube router, although there is no restriction but if you allow more number of calls ((depends on hardware capacity as well)) than license count, its means you are violating agreement with Cisco.

As, CUBE is a paper-based honor license (no file to install) that allows you to run the CUBE Right-to-Use feature set after you have the UCK9 license installed. 

A session is a single audio or a video call across the CUBE, regardless of call legs. Some vendors consider one call as two sessions. You may refer below document.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/voice/cube/configuration/cube-book/voi-cube-licensing.html

Suresh

[divkumar]

Hello Suresh,

So, if the router has FL-CUBE-25 license and in future if I wanted to put 50 concurrent CUBE call sessions, do I have to purchase FL-CUBE-50 instead of buying one additional FL-CUBE-25 to add 25 sessions on top of existing FL-CUBE-25 ?

Thanks

[Ayodeji Okanlawon]

You can just buy additional  FL-CUBE-25 license